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Fitness Toolkit: Protocol & Tools to Optimize Physical Health
Fitness Toolkit: Protocol & Tools to Optimize Physical Health

Fitness Toolkit: Protocol & Tools to Optimize Physical Health

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Andrew Huberman
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Oct 17, 2022
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Welcome to the huberman Lab podcast, where we discuss science and science based tools for everyday life. I'm Andrew huberman and I'm a professor of neurobiology and Ophthalmology at Stanford school of
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medicine. Today we are discussing Fitness Fitness. Of course, is vitally important for cardiovascular, health for strength, for endurance, for life, span for health span. I can't think of anyone out there that wouldn't want to have healthy hormonal
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function healthy, cardiovascular function,
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Live a long time and to feel vital that is to have a long Health span as well as a long lifespan Fitness and
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fitness Protocols are tremendously powerful for developing all of that. However, despite there being an enormous amount of
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information out there on the
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internet and in books and elsewhere, it can be a bit overwhelming. So today's episode is really designed to synthesize
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science-based tools that we've covered on the
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podcast, some with expert guests. Like dr. Andy Galpin, or dr. Peter. A Tia, or
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Renowned movement, specialist Ido portal, or physiotherapist and strength, and conditioning Coach, Jeff cavaliere we've had all of them on its guest on the podcast and each and every one of them, provided a wealth of knowledge. In terms of the various things that you can do to optimize very specific or
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multiple aspects of Fitness.
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Today, we're going to do something a little bit different than usual. Typically on the huberman Lab podcast, I
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offer mechanism upfront or first and then we talked about protocols that you can use that really lean on those signs and signs.
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Based mechanisms.
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Today, I'm going to describe a specific protocol that serves as a general template that anyone. In fact, everyone can use in order to
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maximize all aspects of Fitness, so that includes endurance, strength flexibility, hypertrophy
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aesthetic, changes Etc. However, this General framework can also be modified that is customized to your particular needs. So, if you're somebody who really wants to build more strength or bigger muscles, you
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can change the protocol and the overall program according
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To that and I'll talk about very specific ways to do that
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or if you're somebody who really just
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wants to maintain strength, but you want to build endurance will talk about
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that. And of course, we will cover real life issues. Such as should you train? If you are sleep deprived, what about food? When should you eat? What if you haven't eaten in your hungry? Should you still train etcetera, Etc. We're going to cover all of that. Again, in the context of this, what I would call foundational template of Fitness. This foundational, template of Fitness is something that I
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personally use. In fact, I've used it for over 3.
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Kids aren't believe that, I'm that old but I just recently turned
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47 and I still use this basic
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protocol or template across the week and modify it
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according to what my particular goals are that year that month even that day because I like you live in the real world and sometimes I've been traveling or
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I miss a workout. Yes, it does happen or life isn't organized in. Exactly. The way that I need to in order to have everything go according
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to the protocol that's on paper. So we're going to discuss real world issues and had
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To work with the
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real-world issues in order to get the most out of your
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fitness program. And again by the end of today's program I can assure you, you will have a template protocol that you can build up from build-out change in modify and that will really serve your fitness goals according to the science and what peer-reviewed studies
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and the experts that appeared on this podcast and other podcasts really tell us is best and optimal for our fitness.
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huberman Lab podcast. Again, that's huberman
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labs.com. / premium, before we dive into today's content about Fitness and fitness. Protocols want to tell you about a brand new study that is very exciting and frankly very unusual. This is a study that was published out of the University of Houston examining a what I would
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call a micro exercise or a micro movement is a
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very small movement of a very small portion of your body. In fact, just
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1% of your musculature
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Sure that when
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it's performed continuously, while seated has least what they report are very
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dramatic positive changes in terms of blood sugar utilization and Metabolism. So the title of this study is a
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potent physiological method to magnify and sustain Soleus oxidative metabolism, improves glucose and lipid regulation this study was published in I science. And as I mentioned earlier, it is getting a lot of attention and it's very unusual.
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Without going into all the details of this study, let me just briefly give you a little bit of the background. First of all, you have a muscle called the Soleus the soleus muscle is a more or less wide flat muscle that sits beneath what most people think of as their
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calf. Although it's part of the calf muscle. The other portion the calf is called the gastrocnemius, the Soleus, it's below that. Now,
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the soleus muscle is a unique muscle because it's largely slow twitch muscle fibers. It's designed to be used
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continuously over and over again for stabilizing your body when you're standing up.
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Right for
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walking, this is a muscle that's designed to
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contract over and over and over again. In fact, you could walk all day on this muscle and most likely it would not get sore, do you probably done that? And it did not get sore in contrast a muscle, like your bicep or your tricep. If I were to,
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have you perform hundreds or thousands of repetitions, even with a very light weight, one pound weight, or two-pound weight eventually, it would fatigue. You would feel it sort of a burn their, it's a very unusual set of muscles.
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To use repeatedly, but the
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Soleus is an unusual muscle in that, it really is designed to be used continuously. Now, this study was focused on how people who sit
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a lot of the day and don't have the opportunity for a lot of physical movement, or maybe who don't, even exercise, it
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all can improve their metabolism and glucose utilization without going into a deep dive about glucose
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utilization. Because we've done the Deep dive on this podcast episodes such as metabolism, Etc, you can look those up. But he ruined lab.com, they're all time stamped and
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available there.
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Any time you eat, your blood sugar, goes up to some extent, so your blood glucose as it's called, goes up to some extent and then insulin is a hormone that's used to essentially chaperone and sequester and
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use that blood glucose or is
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basically the idea is you don't want blood glucose to go to high. Hyperinsulinemia is something associated with blood glucose.
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That's too high because insulin goes up to essentially match the level of blood glucose. You do also don't want to be hypoglycemic, you don't want to have blood sugar. That's too low and insulin is involved in both regulators.
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In Peaks and troughs in blood sugar blood glucose. So we can basically say and this is very
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simple but we can basically say that you don't want blood glucose to be elevated too much or for too
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long, that's not good. In fact people who have diabetes because they don't make insulin people have type 1 diabetes do not make insulin at
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all. Their blood glucose has is
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so high that they actually have to take insulin in order to regulate otherwise their blood glucose can go so high that it can damage cells and damaged organs, that can even kill people
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people
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Have type 2 diabetes are so called insulin insensitive, they make
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insulin but the receptors to insulin are not sensitive
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to it. And so they make more insulin than normally would be
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made and blood glucose isn't regulated properly, etc, etc.
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The take-home message about blood glucose is that you want your blood glucose levels to go up when you eat but not too high and you don't want them to
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stay elevated for too long.
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This study looked at how people who are largely sedentary or at least sitting can increase the utilization, the clearance of glucose from the
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Bloodstream after eating
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and they also looked at
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overall metabolism for people
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get this that were using just that one percent of muscle the Soleus by doing what they call a Soleus push-up. So the sole is push-up can be described very simply as if you're sitting down with your knee
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bent at an approximately right angle
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like a square corner and pushing up or I should say lifting your heel while pushing down on your toe and Contracting. The calf muscle as it were and then lower.
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During the
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heel and then lifting the heel again lowering the heel, lifting the heel
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again. Each one of those is what they call a Soleus push up. This study had people continuously due solely as push-ups and they looked at things
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like blood glucose utilization, they looked at metabolism. And so on. Now, a
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couple of important things about this study before I tell you what they discovered, which was frankly,
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pretty miraculous almost hard to believe. And yet, I believe the data, the data look to be collected, quite quite well.
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And there are a lot of Statistics in the study, looks to be quite thorough.
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First of all, they use an equal number of male and female subjects, there were wide range of body, mass, indices, okay, so this wasn't just super fit people or people that were purely sedentary and not fit. The used a wide variety of Ages time of day people who tended to walk a lot or not. Walk a lot. They measured changes in metabolism and blood glucose utilization and people that had done these Soleus
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push-ups while seated in the
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laboratory and I must say they had them do these. So
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always push ups for quite a long while continuously so they have them do it for as long as 270 minutes
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total throughout the day. So if you divide that that's four and a half hours, you might say well four and a half hours of lifting the heel and putting the heel down lifting the heel putting the heel down. That's a lot but they didn't
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always do it
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continuously. They had some breaks in
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there. So this is the sort of thing that you could imagine you or other people could do while seated,
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while doing zooms or while on calls or maybe even while eating doing that sort of thing. Although
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I'm not suggesting that you constantly be focusing on solely as push ups throughout your life. The point
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is that people who did the Soleus push-ups experienced
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dramatic improvements in blood sugar regulation and in metabolism despite the fact that the Soleus is just
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one percent of the total musculature. So here I'm going to read from the abstract about what they found. People who did these Soleus push-ups, despite being a tiny muscle and using very little
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local energy. In fact, they measured muscle
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Glycogen that burn or essentially the utilization of fuel within the muscle. And there was
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very little utilization of fuel
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within the Soleus itself and that's because the sole is has this unique property of needing to basically keep you going all day. Walking all day or moving all day.
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What they saw was a large
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magnitude for
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example, 52 percent less
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postprandial that's after a
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meal glucose Excursion, so 52 percent less increase in blood glucose.
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And 60%, 60 less hyperinsulinemia, so reduced levels of insulin. They also miraculously observed that despite this being again at a small muscle 1% of the total muscle
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mass. So very small oxidative use. They
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saw big improvements in systemic metabolic regulation. So this is interesting and I think something that we should, at least know about. I'm not aware that anyone's replicated this study yet. I know there's a ton of excitement about this study in the popular press.
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And if the data
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turn out to hold up which I like to imagine, they will,
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I can understand why there's so much excitement. What this means is that if you're somebody who cares about blood
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glucose regulation, you want to keep your metabolism running, please don't stop exercising. The other ways that you exercise. But
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if you're somebody who wants to maximize
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your health
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doing, these Soleus push-ups fairly continuously, while seated
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is going to be beneficial.
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And in addition to that, I know that there are going to be people out there who for instance, might be injured or you're traveling.
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When you're stuck on a plane or you're in the classroom and you're forced to study all day or take notes all day. You're just not getting enough opportunity to
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get those steps that you want to take whether or not 10,000 or fewer or more getting enough
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steps or movement, maybe you don't have time to get out and do your run or maybe you're also running weight, lifting, and doing yoga
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classes, and things of that sort. But you want to further improve your Fitness at least in terms of your metabolic Health, the
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seems like a terrific, very
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low investment way to do it. Certainly zero cost
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it.
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Does take a little bit of a tension. So,
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you have to divert your attention from other things, you're doing to make sure that you're still doing this solely as push-ups.
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I'm sure that many of you are going to have a lot of detailed questions. Such as you know, how high did they lift the heel, and did they
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contract the muscle very hard or
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not? A couple of things about that? They did not have subjects really
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contract, the muscle hard. They did measure the angle of heel
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raise and it was anywhere from 10 to 15 degrees. So, you didn't have to go way way up on their tippy toes or things of that sort in any event, 270 minutes, four and a half hours
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of doing these.
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Solely as push-ups is a
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lot, but by my read of the
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data and the rather significant, or I should say very significant effects that they observed on blood glucose regulation and Metabolism,
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Etc, seems to me that doing less would still
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be beneficial and that you don't necessarily have to do the full 270 minutes in order to get the benefits that they observed
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more. About this study includes the fact that the benefits they observed, were very
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long lasting as long as two hours after a meal, they could still see this improve blood glucose utilization.
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I don't know because I wasn't able to find it in the methods, whether or not they were doing the Soleus push-ups
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while, they were consuming blood sugar. In this study, the point being that if you're somebody who cares about their Fitness, this study is interesting because what it means is that again, if you are forced to be a
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mobile or sitting longer than you would like I feel stuck in a meeting or zooms or class or on a plane at cetera.
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Or if you're simply trying to add a bit more Fitness and metabolic Health to your overall regimen solely.
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Push-ups least to me it seemed like a very low
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investment simple zero cost tool to improve your metabolic health.
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For those of you that want to peruse the study in more detail, we will provide a link to this paper published in. I science in the show. No
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Of the week and your Fitness protocol
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across the week and indeed across the month and the year, and even year to year,
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when we had dr. Andy Galpin on
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the podcast. He
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said something very important that we
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want to keep in mind today, which is
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concepts. Are few
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methods, are many. That is,
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there are an infinite number of different, programs, and exercises, and set, and rep schemes, and different runs and burpees, and push ups, etc, etc. That one can follow. However, there are really just a few basic.
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Steps are principles of muscle, physiology of cardiovascular function of connective tissue function that provide or set the basis for the adaptations that we call Fitness, or that lead to Fitness. So I'm going to list those off. Now we can talk about a fitness protocol, that's really aimed. Mainly toward developing
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skill, that's one or speed, that's
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another or power, which is speed times strength or specifically strength, or hi.
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Hypertrophy growth of muscles or endurance, such as muscular endurance, muscular endurance is for instance, your ability to stay in a plank
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position or to do a wall sit, you know, to sit on an invisible chair against the
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wall or other forms of endurance like near pure and aerobic endurance. So a one-minute Sprint or less or one minute. All out
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cycling on stationary bike, this sort of thing
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or endurance that occurs in the kind of
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Ritu, 12-minute
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total duration range, so that might be
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Sprint's or high intensity interval type training. It could be a
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all outswim. It could be all outro. That's another form of endurance Taps into different fuel systems, different aspects of muscle physiology, Etc. And then
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endurance that last 30 minutes or more, which is
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typically what people think about when they think about endurance. But of course, the other forms of endurance matter. So we've got skill, speed,
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power strength, hypertrophy,
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Muscular endurance and aerobic endurance.
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What I would call 3 to 12 minutes endurance, although it goes by other names as well and 30
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minutes or more endurance type exercise and adaptations
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each and every one of these requires different principles different concepts in order to improve
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say your muscular strength or your hypertrophy
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or both however there's a general theme that sits
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beneath all adaptations leading to Fitness and that's what we're really going to set down. As the base layer, the
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Of everything we talked about today and
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that's that we need to think about what are the
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modifiable variables. Again, I'm borrowing directly from the episode with dr. Andy alpen, he was the one that said
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modifiable variables. Are the key thing to think about what are you going to modify? What are you going to change in order to increase one or some
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of the various things I listed off before skill, speed power strength, hypertrophy endurance, etc, etc.
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And some of the key Concepts that emerge from that discussion.
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We are that we need to think about Progressive overload. Normally, when people hear about Progressive overload, they think about adding more weight to a bar or
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picking up heavier dumbbells, but that could also be
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Progressive overload in the context of running up a
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hill of steeper incline, or running a little bit faster, a little bit further and so on and so forth. Now,
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as I promised earlier today, we are not going to drill into each and every one of the mechanisms
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that underlie the different adaptations that are going to develop speed and strength and endurance, etcetera, because that was covered in the podcast with dr. Andy Galpin and
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Their podcast with experts that I mentioned earlier and we again will provide links to those podcasts if you want to drill into those mechanisms
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instead. What we're going to do is we're going to start with a program that essentially is designed for you to
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maximize all
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aspects of Fitness to the extent that you can
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simultaneously maximize all aspects of
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Fitness but then to change or modify that protocol so that if you want to build up more for instance
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strength and you want to just hold on to the endurance.
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You have you don't want to build endurance, at least, not in that week or that month. You
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can do that or if you want to improve your endurance while maintaining your
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strength, you can do that and so on and so forth.
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Most people I do believe would like a combination of strength and endurance and flexibility and maybe even hypertrophy, particularly for certain muscle groups that maybe are not as well developed as other
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muscle groups. They want to bring balance to their physique, both for sake, of Aesthetics, and for sake of health, and for sake of
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General functioning to maybe even to eliminate pain. The
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protocol that I'm going to describe really works as a foundational template for that as well. So let's drill into that foundational protocol and I'll keep referring to it as the foundational protocol not because it's the one that I use. Although it is
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the one that I use and not because it's the one that we're talking about today although it's the one we're talking about today but
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because we need some general framework from which to build out the more
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specific protocols that we'll get into in a bit more detail later.
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So in this foundational protocol for fitness,
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what you'll notice is that on any one given day, you're going to focus on one particular aspect of Fitness,
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maybe it's endurance, maybe it's strength, maybe it's
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hypertrophy in particular. It might be hypertrophy for a particular muscle group or muscle groups that said across the entire week, is designed to bring Fitness and different forms of Fitness
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to all aspects of your body.
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So this particular protocol begins on Sunday although that's simply the day that I
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happen to begin.
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Protocol and again, this protocol is not important because it's the one that I follow, I follow it because it is
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important. In other words, it's a protocol that's really glean from the scientific
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literature in the experts that is for you. So this Fitness protocol is really about you. I just may refer to it as the one that I follow simply for ease of communication.
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And for me, my week begins on Sunday. So, I do my very best to get a
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workout in on Sunday. And
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for me, that workout is that of a endurance workout.
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Designed to either maintain or increase my endurance. And the endurance type that I'm referring to is endurance of 30 minutes or more. In fact, for me, the goal is always to get either 60 to 75 minutes of jogging. So, this would be so called Zone to cardio people. Probably have heard of Zone to cardio, but if you haven't, that's okay Zone to cardio something that you could
25:27
measure with a heart rate monitor or other
25:28
device, but you don't need to zone two cardio. Is the kind of cardiovascular
25:33
Your
25:33
size in which you're pushing yourself to move such that you're breathing faster than normal. Your heart is beating
25:42
faster than normal.
25:43
However you are still able to sustain a conversation but if you were to push yourself any harder that is move
25:50
faster or go up a steeper incline at the same rate. You happen to be at any one
25:54
moment, you would lose that ability to speak.
25:57
You wouldn't be able to complete sentences. You would be out of breath or you'd have to pause mid-sentence. Now it's
26:02
near impossible.
26:03
Possible, even with a heart rate monitor
26:04
to stay exactly in
26:06
zone 2. Unless you're very, very skilled at that. So, I don't obsess over
26:10
that. And in fact, I don't wear a heart rate monitor when I do this exercise. But
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for me, the goal is to head out on Sunday and get 60 to 75 minutes of jogging in zone 2. Now, of course I like to jog with that doesn't mean that
26:22
you have to jog. You could replace jogging with
26:25
Rowing on a rowing machine or maybe even rolling an actual boat if you have access to that
26:29
or cycling or swimming. Something that allows you continuous movement for 60 to 75 minutes at that zone to
26:37
threshold. We talked about earlier
26:40
for me that can include some hills and when I say
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Hills, they could be very steep hills but I simply slow my Pace down in order to stay in that roughly Zone to
26:50
range. Or it could be that they are more
26:54
Low-grade Hills and I might, you know, just slow down a little bit or
26:57
I might even push myself a tiny bit that day, but really, I'm just trying to build that
27:01
long endurance. I'm trying to build up my capacity or maintain my capacity to go a long distance without fatiguing. Now, some days,
27:08
meaning some Sundays, since I tend to do
27:11
this, almost always on Sunday, although there are
27:13
exceptions instead of doing the 60 to 75 minute, jog, what I'll do is, I will head out for a
27:19
long hike that could be
27:20
two and a half hours, or three hours or maybe even a four or five-hour hike some
27:24
It's
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very long and I'll do that sometimes simply to mix up the routine because sometimes jogging and jogging the
27:32
same route gets boring to me. I do enjoy running. That's something I've been doing for a very long time but
27:39
sometimes it just gets a little bit tedious and I want to do something different. Also, sometimes I want to be social on Sundays, I want to head
27:46
out on a hike with my partner or
27:48
I want to meet up with friends and hike with them. And so, taking a long hike on Sunday is something that also could be quite
27:53
social.
27:54
And then I don't have to worry about also getting in my workout, when heading out on a hike with my partner or going out to meet with friends or things of that sort,
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I will say that there's a specific tool or a specific change that you can make to this Sunday long endurance or what least, what I
28:12
consider long form. Am it's by no means a marathon or an Iron Man. But this
28:16
long endurance training and that's the use of a weight vest. So something that I've really started utilizing more
28:23
recently and
28:24
More recently. I really mean
28:25
within the last year or so is I purchased one of these weight
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vests that can
28:30
be anywhere from 10 to 50 pounds. What I use in the weight vest is irrelevant but it certainly
28:37
changes the level of effort required when taking a hike or even a walk. Now
28:41
there's an additional benefit of the weight vest, which is that if you are going
28:44
out for a hike or even for a walk for social reasons and you're with somebody that's not quite at the same Fitness level that you are,
28:50
frankly, it's a little bit rude to just keep
28:53
walking ahead of them and running.
28:54
Back or running ahead and running back,
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you know, often times you really want to spend time with the person and you don't want them to
28:58
feel as if they're holding you up.
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And so the weight, vest is a terrific way to get some
29:03
additional work. Then, as you'll find, if you wear a weight vest, it is additional. Work
29:09
on, say a shorter hike. So maybe the person you're
29:11
with only has time for an hour, long hike, or maybe they just don't have the fitness to do a two-hour three-hour hike. So,
29:18
I'll throw on the weight vest, and I'll head out for a walk with them, or a hike with them. Or sometimes, I'll go out on a long
29:23
hike with a weight vest.
29:24
Of. So, again, the point of this for me, Sunday, although it could fall on any day for you. Workout is really to build up that long form endurance and this fits well with what dr. Andy Galpin and dr. Peter Oto referred to as the real need to get in some long endurance type work
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at some point or even multiple points throughout the week. For
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me, this long Sunday, jog of 60 to 75 minutes or long Sunday hike or weighted walk or weighted hike really accomplishes that goal.
29:54
It sometimes leads to a little bit of
29:56
soreness particularly in my calves or if I'm wearing the weight vest, sometimes my my midsection will get sore because I'm trying to remain
30:05
upright. So I think it also builds up some muscular endurance, not just cardiovascular endurance. But again, throughout the entire time that I'm jogging or hiking, what I'm trying to get to is a place where I can feel that my pulse rate is definitely elevated, but it's not so elevated
30:21
that have to stop because I'm out of breath and because I know,
30:24
People out there might be really neurotic about this sort of
30:26
thing, if you have to stop because you're out of breath, that doesn't mean that you blew the
30:30
workout that, you know, you aren't getting endurance. Of course, you're getting benefits from it. So I'm not absolutely neurotic about always staying exactly in that heart rate zone. I might stop and have a conversation for a moment if it's a longer
30:41
hike, although I really try and keep moving and I try and push myself just a little bit further than
30:46
where I'm exceedingly, comfortable. And
30:48
so for me doing this long Sunday,
30:50
hike or jog, really
30:53
provides a foundation.
30:54
In a base for endurance that then the other endurance workouts that I'll describe
30:58
later and that take place later in the week can build on.
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Now, as I mentioned earlier, we will get back to the mechanisms that this Taps into and why this is so useful. There are multiple benefits to doing these kinds of
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endurance type workouts and Zone to cardio, but by
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putting it at the start of my week. Again, my week starts on Sunday. I'm sure that regardless of how the rest of the week goes
31:21
that. I got my endurance training in and of
31:24
Course, I'm going to want to and I will do endurance training, other days during the week. But if something comes up or I
31:29
happen to get sick or I'm really
31:32
behind in terms of work and I can't get other workouts in this Sunday, long jog, or hike really provides that fundamental
31:40
I can honestly say
31:40
foundation for
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cardiovascular fitness and endurance that I can hang my hat on and say, okay, I've got that one in the bag and I can then look to other days of the week to focus on other aspects of
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Fitness. Now, really important point to make about this.
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Sunday, endurance workout is that allows you
31:58
to check off a box and that
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box is 75 or
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so minutes of Zone to cardio. Because as you may have heard, either in this podcast, or from others out there like dr. Peter
32:09
attia, getting 180 to 200 minutes of Zone to cardio per week. Has enormous positive
32:15
effects on
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longevity and enormous positive
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effects on General Health again in terms of cardiovascular function, but also
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metabolic fuel
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Utilization also, in terms of your musculature and your ability to use
32:28
your body over long distances for long periods of time. So while it doesn't complete
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all
32:34
180 to 200 minutes per week, it
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certainly gets you a good distance pun intended toward that goal. Now, I want to acknowledge that some people might be starting, a fitness program and so 60 to 75 minutes of jogging might be too long or a three-hour. Waited vested hike
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or some people might even do what's called a rock like you were a rucksack
32:53
that might be
32:54
Too much in which case, certainly start
32:57
with less and go on flat ground and go at the rate that allows you to get into zone two. But that is not excessively difficult for you. And then as you build up Fitness, you can add time or you can add weight through a weight vest or if you don't want to buy a weight vest or can't afford one,
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there's a simple solution to that, actually, a good anecdote about that. One time I was heading out for a hike with a friend of mine, he was a former Seal Team operator. I'll never forget this and he said, oh yeah, I'll bring you.
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I'll bring you a sack and I thought you meant like a sack lunch, like he was going to bring lunch. And I showed up and he busy, give me a backpack that was
33:29
loaded with a bunch of stuff in the backpack weighs about 40 pounds and then we took a
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hike. So I was thinking lunch, he was thinking weighted backpack and a weighted backpack or even just any kind of strong sack that you can put over your shoulders or even Carrying Your Arms. It's going to work exceedingly well to build in some
33:45
extra requirement for effort so you certainly don't have to purchase a weight vest in order to in order to get the benefits of bringing additional weight along with
33:54
You on these long, cardiovascular events,
33:57
but again, build up over time. You can add time, you can add weight. And that's also a really nice
34:02
feature of adding weight, which is
34:03
at some point, your schedule might be
34:05
such, or you just don't really want to keep adding more and more and more time on this long endurance. Sunday, in this
34:14
case, work out, in that case, add weight, you can
34:18
also, as you build up Fitness, you can
34:20
add speed to it. Your Zone 2 and what zone 2 is won't shift but
34:24
What work is required from you? In order to get into zone, two will shift. That is, as you get more and more fit, you'll have to move faster and or bring more weight in
34:32
order to stay in zone 2. And that will simply tell you that you are indeed improving your endurance.
34:37
Okay. So then Monday rolls around and I like most everyone else out there. I work on Monday,
34:43
I get right into my emails and preparation for podcast and running my laboratory
34:48
Etc. However I make sure that at some
34:51
point on Monday and for me that's some
34:54
Point is typically and
34:56
ideally early in the morning, so 7 a.m. or so I train my legs on Monday. So that includes quadriceps hamstrings
35:03
and calves. Why do I do that workout on Monday? And what is that workout designed to do? Well, that
35:07
workout is really designed to make sure that I'm either maintaining or building strength in my legs. And this is not simply for aesthetic
35:17
reasons. This is not simply to grow bigger calves or grow, bigger, quadriceps and hamstrings, although it can accomplish that as
35:24
Depending on how you train will talk about details of training. The reason for training legs
35:28
on Monday is several fold. First of all, they are the largest muscle groups of the body and by training your legs on Monday, it sets in motion a large number of metabolic
35:37
processes that
35:38
carry you some distance, even through the whole week in terms of elevating metabolism. In terms of amplifying, certain hormonal events in your body Etc, that are really beneficial. In addition to that, I'm of the belief that the legs are
35:53
the foundation of
35:54
Of the body and provided you can train legs safely. That
35:58
training legs is vitally important. Not just for strength of the
36:01
legs but also for strength of your entire body. Again, some of that is through systemic hormonal effects because if you're going to train the large muscle groups of your body under
36:10
substantial loads, you will get systemic release of hormones. Not just testosterone, although certainly testosterone but also things like growth hormone. You get increases in all sorts of so-called anabolic hormones that even if you're somebody who's not trying to increase muscle
36:23
size,
36:24
I realize a lot of people are not trying to do that.
36:26
These are hormones that shift your metabolism and your overall tendon strength and ligament strength and overall, musculature into what I would call a strong foundation. So for me, Monday is leg workout. It also, just feels good to
36:39
get the leg workout out of the way early in the week
36:43
and it accomplishes another goal which is that I sometimes will take one or two days off of a leg
36:49
workout because they can be very intense and they are large muscle groups and I'll explain what I do on the off days.
36:54
They're not pure off days. They actually include some recovery type training or even some
36:58
all-out training. But by training legs on Monday, I'm able to get what I consider the hardest strength and hypertrophy work out of the way. And again,
37:10
set all those positive physiological effects in motion for the entire week.
37:13
The other thing is that no workout exist in isolation. What you do. One day is going to be determined by what you did the previous day. And even though the previous day, I may have
37:22
taken a three-hour. Wait, vested
37:23
hike.
37:24
Never are my legs. So sore from that long, slow endurance work
37:28
because it is long and
37:29
slow. Then I'm unable to train legs contrast that with a say high intensity interval training workout, which comes later in the week and my legs might be sore. In
37:40
fact, I might not even be recovered such that I'm able to do a real leg work. And when I say real workout, I'll describe what that means in a
37:46
moment. So legs come on Monday. And I think that for those of you that are using or interested in using resistance training, I see
37:54
Us getting your leg workout done, early in the week. And for those of you that have heard the phrase, you know, don't skip leg day. I will go a step further and say don't skip leg day and fit. In fact, make leg day your first day of strength and hypertrophy training, put it on Monday. I'd like to take a quick break and acknowledge one of our sponsors. Athletic greens, athletic greens.
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Okay, so now that we're talking about
39:24
Distance training. The question is going to
39:25
come up about sets and Reps and all of that
39:28
business that was covered in a lot of detail on
39:31
the podcast with dr. Andy
39:32
Galpin. And I'm going to get into some of that detail now, but I'm going to wait until I describe the entire set of workouts for the week before I go into even more detail. Because there's a way of what's called. Izing that is changing the sets and Reps Etc
39:49
across the week and indeed from month to
39:52
month, that's really optimal.
39:55
I don't want to make it seem as. If all of that, just pertains to the leg workout. It actually pertains to all of the resistance training. So I'll just give you a couple of teasers about the key principles of resistance training that I think are almost universally, if not universally. Then generally
40:11
accepted in the strength training and Physiology community. And
40:16
then later, I'll get back to some of the overarching
40:19
principles that apply to all strength and hypertrophy workouts.
40:24
Across the week, including the ones, for the Torso, the arms Etc.
40:27
Okay, so legs fall on Monday, I should say that leg workouts like all
40:33
resistance training workouts for me consists of about. Again, I'm not neurotic, we attach this, but about 10
40:39
minutes of warming up and then about 50, 50 to 60 Minutes of real work. Now, of course, some of that is
40:46
going to be rest between sets,
40:47
but by real work, I mean really hard work. Not necessarily to failure, will talk about failure in a little bit, but hard work.
40:54
Where I'm struggling to complete
40:56
the final repetitions if not going to failure to continue to move the weight
41:01
repetitions. And again the entire work portion of that workout is
41:05
about 50 to 60 Minutes.
41:07
Why? Well? Past 60 Minutes, you start getting
41:10
increases in cortisol that really impede recovery. And I personally am somebody
41:15
that does not recover very
41:16
well from high intensity exercise,
41:19
I realized that within the literature It is believed and I think
41:24
Generally accepted that, when you stimulate muscle hypertrophy or strength
41:28
increases, it impacts the
41:31
nervous system.
41:32
It also causes things like protein synthesis
41:35
etcetera. There are number of different
41:36
forms of adaptation that occur to give you muscle strength and size changes.
41:41
And these days, people talk a lot about needing to stimulate muscle growth or
41:45
muscle strength at least every 48 hours. But I can tell you that I
41:49
recover rather slowly and I benefit from working the same muscle group about,
41:54
Twice per week with longer where I should say more days of
41:59
rest in between those workouts. So if I train legs on Monday, believe it or not, I'm only training legs on Monday, I do not have a second leg workout during the week.
42:09
However, on Friday, I do a high intensity
42:13
interval training session that
42:15
serves two purposes one, is it serves the purpose of triggering a certain type of endurance and
42:21
getting my heart rate. Very, very high.
42:24
And in addition to that, because of the way I do
42:26
that work out, it
42:27
acts as a sort of supplement or a more moderate intensity
42:31
workout for quadriceps hamstrings and calves such that I at least never lose strength. In fact, generally build strength from one leg workout to the next provided I'm doing things correctly.
42:44
So, what I'm not referring to
42:46
is the kind of classic, you know, super high intensity training once per week and then not actually training that muscle group. Again
42:53
for me, it's really true.
42:54
Each muscle group twice per week, once directly, and then once indirectly, either
42:59
during another weight training workout, or
43:01
during a cardiovascular, I should say endurance training workout. So again legs on Monday, the workout is
43:06
50 to 60
43:07
minutes after a brief warmup. I generally pick two
43:11
exercises per muscle group. So again, I'm doing
43:14
calves, I'm doing quadriceps, and I'm
43:16
doing hamstrings, you should pick the exercises
43:19
that work for you.
43:20
So that's why I'm actually not going to share which exercises I use. I'll
43:23
give you.
43:24
A couple suggestions about the ones I do use, but
43:26
really exercise selection is
43:27
dr. Andy Galpin pointed
43:29
out is a very important variable and the key thing to emphasize for that variables, that you need to be able to perform the movement safely.
43:36
So I know there's a huge debate out there and people love to argue about whether or not one can squat or deadlift for long
43:42
periods of time, or should, or should
43:44
not some people say you absolutely should. I personally do not squat and do not dead lift. I've actually never done, much squatting or deadlifting. I know some people out there probably rolling.
43:54
Their eyes or switching the channel at this point. But I can
43:59
say that for me, I've been able to achieve the strength and hypertrophy goals that I've
44:05
been seeking doing things, like leg extensions
44:08
and hack squats or for hamstrings. Doing things like leg curls and glute ham raises or for calves
44:12
doing standing and seated, calf raises. And so on, I think a key
44:16
principle that everyone should pay attention to is one that was taught to
44:18
me by an
44:21
excellent strength coach years ago and I still use this.
44:24
Us. And at least, it works for me for each muscle group, try and find an exercise in which you get that muscle into a
44:31
weighted stretch position. So this would be for instance, the standing calf raise, you know, down at the bottom, it's waited and you're in a deep stretch provided you're doing the movement
44:40
correctly as well as another exercise where you're getting contraction in the
44:45
shortened position of the muscle. So for the hamstrings, that would be the leg curl for the Cavs. It would be a seated calf raise or for the quadriceps the
44:54
The leg extension is, you know, if the machine is designed, right, and you're doing it correctly. The peak contraction is largely
45:00
going to occur at the at the legs extended position. But then another exercise for each muscle group, that puts the muscle into more of a stretched or at least a
45:10
larger range of motion or
45:12
compound type movement, but ideally where there's some stretch there. So I guess I will tell you what exercise I exercise I do for the quadriceps is going to be leg extensions and hack squats. I use hack squats because I don't do free bar squats for
45:24
Safety reasons and I like the hack squat machine. I'll do
45:26
leg curls and glute ham raises for hamstrings, and I'll do standing calf raises and see calf raises for the calves. Again, those are the movements that I use because I can
45:35
perform them safely in the repetition ranges in with the weights that are required for me to either maintain or build like strength and calf strength.
45:43
But you might decide that for you deadlifts are
45:46
absolutely essential and terrific or squats free bar squats are absolutely terrific or front. You know, front squats. I'm not here to tell you what.
45:54
Decides to do or not. Do I am telling you that it's probably wise to, at least consider doing at least two exercises per muscle group? Probably three
46:05
maximum. If you ask me, if you're doing your entire legs and calves
46:08
in one day. But to think about doing one exercise where the muscle is brought into that, shortened Peak contraction position
46:14
like like curls are leg extensions or seated, calf raises and then another exercise for each muscle group where there's more
46:19
of an elongation and maybe even
46:20
a stretch on the muscle group.
46:22
In fact, that's a principle that you'll hear me.
46:24
Talk about later when I talk about training, other muscle
46:27
groups for strength and hypertrophy. So
46:29
now you know, approximately how long to
46:30
train you might be somebody who can get away with training for an hour and a half and that won't impede you recovery for me that really starts to impede my recovery. Also
46:40
if I'm staying on task that 60 Minute limit really works, well for me. Do I occasionally train for 75 minutes? Yes.
46:47
Because if I'm waiting for a piece of equipment, sometimes I have to just wait longer so that happens. But I really try and keep the total duration.
46:54
Of the workout shorter.
46:56
How many sets and Reps, and rest intervals, without was covered by dr. Andy Galpin as well, without getting into the total science. Here's a brief
47:04
summary of how to structure that.
47:06
It's pretty clear that if you're going to do lower repetitions
47:13
and heavier weights that you're going to want to do a bit more volume, I know that this spits in the face of what a lot of people
47:20
think, but so if you're going to do 5 sets of 5, I would consider five.
47:24
Repetitions low low
47:26
repetition range, heavier weight.
47:28
And if you're going to train with higher repetitions, you can do fewer sets that certainly works for me. I generally follow a program where for, about a month. So, 3 to 4 weeks, I will do all my resistance training,
47:41
in the repetition range of about four to eight repetitions. So that's rather heavy a few more sets, so it might be anywhere from
47:50
three to four sets
47:53
per exercise.
47:54
Again, still just two exercises and longer rest between sets. Anywhere from 2 minutes to maybe even four minutes, if it's really heavy leg work.
48:03
And then for the next month, switch to repetition range, that's closer to 8 to 12, maybe even 15 repetitions per set, but do fewer sets overall.
48:14
So maybe just two to three sets per exercise again just two exercises per muscle group
48:18
typically and shorten the rest between sets. So that it's more in that
48:24
90 second, maybe even as short as
48:25
60 seconds rest between sets but typically 90 seconds to about two minutes or two and a half minutes.
48:31
So basically it's one month. Heavier the next month?
48:34
Slightly lighter. Although I wouldn't say light, I would say moderate weight and moderate rep range
48:40
that tends to work well for me, it also adheres to a principle that came up during the discussion
48:46
again with dr. Andy Galpin,
48:48
that for hypertrophy, you really can use repetition ranges anywhere from five to Thirty 30 rep.
48:54
But he emphasized changing the repetition ranges in order to offset boredom. Frankly, I like to train heavier. I enjoy training in the 428 rep range. However, I noticed that, if I do that for more than
49:05
four weeks in a row and I don't switch over to training in the 8 to 12. Maybe in 15 repetition range for about a month. Well then I can't make continuous progress. I start to actually lose
49:14
ground but by switching back and
49:16
forth. I actually can make continuous progress at least across the year.
49:22
So I hope that that principle
49:23
or
49:24
Or I should say that protocol was
49:26
communicated. Clearly, it works very well. I assure. You does that mean that I never get 10 repetitions on a week when I'm supposed to train in the 428 repetition range? Know, occasionally, I'll Venture up into the 10 repetition range, but I really try and cluster the low repetition work for about a month. Again,
49:43
across all workouts, and all exercises and the slightly higher out, even say, moderate repetition work across to the next month.
49:51
One thing that you'll notice. And so we are talking about Total Fitness.
49:54
Ramming is that during the month,
49:57
where you are doing moderate
49:58
repetitions. You'll notice that your endurance
50:00
work will
50:02
actually be facilitated and I do not think that's a coincidence.
50:06
In fact, it's not a coincidence. It's because
50:08
when you were training, very heavy or in the heavier
50:11
range, lower repetitions Etc. You're
50:13
tapping into different processes in those
50:15
muscles. So, when you head out for that long Sunday, hike, or
50:18
as you'll soon hear, whereas
50:20
on Friday, you're going to do high intensity interval training.
50:23
What you'll notice is
50:24
During certain months of weight training, when you're training more heavy, those workouts will feel literally will feel different, then they will drain the months when you're
50:32
doing moderate repetition work. I am not a competitive athlete. I'm not running races or triathlons like some of my friends. I'm very impressed by them.
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I'm really just trying to get overall cardiovascular fitness, overall strength
50:46
overall hypertrophy where I need it, maintain muscle size and Etc. In muscle groups were I'm just trying to maintain. That's really my goal.
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So, I'm not trying to optimize any of these workouts for anyone performance feature, but in a little bit we'll talk about how you can change
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various aspects, that is variables of this protocols in order to say, for instance, really emphasize hypertrophy or really emphasize
51:10
endurance, okay. So with what I would call a standard endurance
51:13
workout done on Sunday and I say standard because most people when they hear endurance, they think of the ability to endure to continue the repeated movement or exercise over some period of
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time with that work.
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Well done on Sunday. And then with the leg workout done on Monday, you can feel really good about how you're heading into the week. However, after
51:31
training legs on Monday,
51:34
I experienced that doing cardiovascular workouts. The next day is either inefficient, or at least doesn't really allow me to completely
51:43
recover from my leg
51:44
workout. Now, I realize that some people are going to
51:46
immediately scoff at that. And in fact, there are really beautiful papers out there talking about how
51:53
one can actually do.
51:54
Fair amount of cardiovascular exercise without interfering with their strength and speed and hypertrophy
52:00
improvements and vice versa. In fact there's a terrific review that was
52:05
mentioned on the podcast with dr. Andy Galpin. This is a review that will provide a citation to and reference and a link to, which is the review by me, rock and Bagley. Which talks about whether or not there's interference between strength and endurance workouts, really interesting review, if you want to peruse that.
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But with all that said,
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Ed. I like to take Tuesday as a no endurance, no resistance training day,
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but that doesn't mean that I'm not doing anything for my overall health and fitness
52:33
on Tuesdays. I do a series of heat cold contrast. In other words, I get really, really warm and then I get really, really cold. I get
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really, really warm and I get really, really cold
52:45
repeatedly and the way I do that is by getting into
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a hot sauna. So for me, that's really hot but I've built up my heat conditioning so
52:54
Don't do this unless you've built up your ability to withstand heat
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and I'll get in for about 20 minutes, sometimes 15, but usually 20 minutes then I get out and then I will get into an ice
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bath or a cold water bath. That's about 45 to 50
53:08
degrees Fahrenheit. Again, don't get into
53:12
water that's so cold that you go into shock. I'll explain what a good cold stimulus
53:18
could be for you and how to determine that or if I don't have access to my sauna and my eyes
53:24
Bath. What I can do if I'm traveling, as I will take a hot bath and then
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alternate with cold shower, hot bath, cold shower.
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It's hard to do hot bath ice
53:33
bath unless you have two baths. I don't know, any hotel rooms
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at least I've never stayed in one that has two baths. Although I'm sure they're out there but for me, this is heat, cold contrast. And really what this day is about is two things. First of all, I'm trying to accelerate recovery from the leg workout, I did previously. Also, if you listen to our episode
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of the hubermann,
53:54
Podcast about deliberate heat, exposure, or you, listen to our episode of the urine Lab podcast about deliberate cold
53:59
exposure. I talk about some of the benefits of heat and cold and I get into a lot of details
54:05
about how you can access heat, you can do bad. As you can
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do saunas, you can even take
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hot showers, you don't have access to any of that. You could even wrap your body from the neck down in garbage bag plastic garbage bags, believe or not, wrestlers used to do this put on some sweats and go running that will get you warm. Again be careful not to overheat and then you can get into a
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old shower. So there's a lot of ways depending on your budget and what
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you have access to. I don't use cryo these cryotherapy Chambers, they're hard to find they're expensive again, I use sauna and ice bath and I will do
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anywhere from three to
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five rounds, which is a
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lot anywhere from three to five rounds of heat for about 20 minutes and
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cold for about five minutes.
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How cold should the cold be? We covered this in the episode on deliberate cold exposure. Here's a general rule of thumb. It should be cold enough that you really want to get out.
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But not so cold that it's unsafe and
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that will vary from person to person so I can't I give you a simple prescriptive there. Same thing with the heat
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hot enough that you're sweating and you want to get out but not so
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hot that you're running the risk of injuring yourself or killing yourself and again that will vary from person to person so you have to build up, slowly be careful and build-up empirically,
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I do that on Tuesdays again as a way to accelerate recovery and because it's very clear that their cardiovascular
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benefits, maybe even benefits for the brain.
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Related to the cardiovascular benefits because worse the brain needs a lot of blood flow and needs a lot of nutrients and other things flowing into and out of their debris out and nutrients and other things into the brain.
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Heat can help accelerate that or improve that. And so I'm doing that to improve cardiovascular function, improved brain
55:42
health and then the cold contrast
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provides a sort of accelerator on that or an
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amplifier I think is the better way to phrase it on that process because in the cold you get Vaso constriction and then in the heat, you get vasodilation. And so you're maximizing that process, which is actually a neural process nerves actually innervate, the blood vessels and capillaries and and even the arteries in order to allow that constriction and dilation process to occur.
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So Tuesday is really about recovery, but my recovery day isn't necessarily about just laying around and not doing anything. I
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might still also take some walks that day. Remember, I want to try and get that 200 minutes of Zone, 2 cardio across the week.
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And sometimes not often, but sometimes I'll get in a
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few minutes or more of walking
56:25
quickly that day. But generally I'm working a lot on Tuesday as I do on Monday and I'm a little bit tired or maybe even a little bit
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sore from my leg workout the previous day Monday. So I try and get that hot.
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Called contrast. There are other benefits too hot and cold contrast.
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We have a
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description of the different
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protocols for hot and for cold and their contrast and our huberman lab newsletter. You can find that by going to human lab.com, go to the newsletter tab, under the menu and you can sign up. You can actually download those protocols very easily without even signing up if you just want to access them straight off. So, Tuesday is really
56:58
about recovery and about getting some additional
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cardiovascular benefits from heat cold
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contrast. One other thing that's built into the rationale for doing a
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out of heat and
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cold on one day as opposed to doing it every day.
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Well, in addition to it being a little bit more convenient because certainly some people don't have access to heat and cold sauna and cold dunks Etc
57:17
every day. So maybe getting to do that one day as more
57:20
accessible or feasible. But in addition to that it's very clear that while there are benefits to doing
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sauna often and we talked about this in the deliberate heat episode and the episode with dr. Rhonda Patrick, when she was a guest on this podcast,
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it's also clear that if you
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USANA seldom that is once a week, but you do a lot of it on one day. So in this
57:41
case, it's an hour, if it's remember, it's warm or it's three to five rounds of 20 minutes of sauna followed by about five minutes of cold. Or so
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by doing that all on one day, the peer-reviewed research that's covered in the episode on deliberate
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Heat. This is a study out of Finland.
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Showed that you get massive, even 16 fold
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increases in growth hormone which are extremely beneficial for metabolism and for recovery.
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So these massive
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Pieces in growth hormone are seen when you are doing these sessions of sauna that are repeated on the same day and you're only doing that about once a week. Whereas if you do Saint Amour often there are certainly benefits to that but it's time
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consuming and you need access to sauna more often than one day a week if you're doing it more than one day a
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week. But if you do it one day a week and you're doing a lot of sessions within that day
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as I've detailed here, you see these massive increases
58:31
in growth hormone that are not
58:33
observed. If you're doing sauna more often for the other benefits,
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Sauna. Now, the effects of cold are many. It's not just vasoconstriction, but the effects of cold are also counter balanced by some of the
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problems with deliberate cold exposure, that
58:47
maybe you've heard about on this podcast and a lot of other
58:50
podcasts and seemed to be a kind of
58:52
a buzz theme on Twitter and elsewhere. And the point is this, there are a number of quality studies showing that. If you do deliberate, cold exposure in particular, ice baths, or getting into very cold, water immediately after an
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Science training session or a strength and hypertrophy session. It can indeed. Yes, it can disrupt or prevent some of the
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adaptations that you are seeking with strength and hypertrophy and endurance workouts.
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Okay? So you heard that right and I believe that to be true based on now several
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quality peer reviewed studies. So
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by doing your deliberate cold, exposure on Tuesday, you're not going to get those
59:31
effects. That is the blocking of hypertrophy or the
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King of strength Improvement or the blocking or prevention of improvements and endurance. That would occur if you immediately got into the ice bath, after a hypertrophy strength or endurance workout. Now the caveat to that is, if
59:48
you are somebody who likes to do cold showers, I am not aware of any data that says
59:54
that cold showers cannot be performed after a strength hypertrophy or endurance
59:58
workout. Cold showers are different than submersion up to the neck in an ice
1:00:05
bath or another
1:00:06
A body of water for a number of different reasons. In fact, they
1:00:10
tap into different aspects of the nervous system entirely. We don't have time to go into that. Now, it's covered in the episode on deliberate cold exposure, but the simple point is, by doing your heat and cold
1:00:19
contrast or Hey,
1:00:21
listen, if you're someone who doesn't have access to Saint, or you don't like hot bath
1:00:24
and you just do some deliberate cold,
1:00:26
exposure on Tuesday. You are doing that separate from your strength
1:00:29
and hypertrophy and endurance workouts. Such that it will not impede the benefits of those workouts, okay, so
1:00:36
long and
1:00:36
Rinse on Sunday leg resistance training on Monday and on Tuesday, heat cold contrast. That brings us to Wednesday. And on Wednesday we get back to a resistance training
1:00:48
workout and the resistance training
1:00:50
workout
1:00:51
that I emphasize on Wednesday
1:00:53
is one in which you train
1:00:54
your torso? Yes, literally, your torso. I know this is counter
1:00:58
to the so-called Bro, Science of bro splits. I
1:01:01
don't know who originated that term. It's a terrible term it essentially
1:01:05
alienated.
1:01:06
Is anyone
1:01:06
who's not a bro or considers themselves a bro, but in any case
1:01:11
this is not about training chest or back or shoulders. In fact, it's really about strengthening the muscles of the Torso, and of course,
1:01:18
includes the chest and the shoulders and the back. And I'm sure as I say this, a number of people out there who are obsessed with hypertrophy and muscle growth and filling out their shirts or
1:01:27
whatever it may be our thing. Oh no, you know, this is just kind of all-around Fitness but no, the point is on Wednesday, you train your
1:01:36
So and that's going to involve some pushing so that's good for you. It might include some
1:01:42
training of things like
1:01:43
bench presses or incline presses
1:01:45
as well as
1:01:46
shoulder presses or lateral raises things for the
1:01:48
shoulders, as well as for the back some pulling exercises, these can be bent over rows or
1:01:51
chin-ups or pull-ups again. There are an enormous number of exercise for
1:01:56
each and every one of these muscle groups. Now, I
1:01:58
believe there's a clear benefit to
1:02:00
training all these muscle groups together on the same day because
1:02:03
much in the same way that training legs all on one day.
1:02:06
Day can lead to these systemic effects because they're large muscle groups working. Both the pushing muscles in the pulling muscles of the Torso on one day. At least in the context of this program is very time. Efficient and tends to Wick out into a number of different dimensions of Health. That least I'm interested in and
1:02:21
I think a lot of other people are interested in. What are those? Well, let's think, again, I want to be strong in, not just my legs, but my upper body, I also
1:02:28
may want may want to engage some hypertrophy to grow certain muscle groups in order to
1:02:34
create a sense of balance that could be
1:02:36
Static reasons but also for balancing strength and for health of and the Integrity of the joints etcetera
1:02:41
and in addition to that by training a bunch of different muscle groups together. You have the opportunity to get
1:02:47
the more systemic
1:02:48
hormonal effects and
1:02:50
metabolic effects that
1:02:51
occur. When you're not just training, one, muscle
1:02:53
group and isolating that one muscle group. But rather training a bunch of muscle groups together.
1:02:58
So Wednesday, I train torso and I do that and push-pull fashion just for kind of time. Efficiency, sometimes that means doing a
1:03:05
pushing exercise.
1:03:06
Sighs, and then a pulling exercise.
1:03:08
Sometimes it might even mean doing a set of pushing, and then a set of pulling and going back and forth. However, if you're in a gym and a particular crowded, Jim, please don't be one of those people that colonize, as multiple pieces of equipment and
1:03:19
says, I'm working there. I'm working
1:03:20
there and, you know, that can be quite a dance, and it can be hard to orchestrate a workout like that. So sometimes it will be starting off with a set of shoulder
1:03:27
presses, and then doing all, you know, all your
1:03:29
sets of those and then moving to your chin ups and then moving
1:03:33
perhaps back to shoulders and realizing
1:03:35
I owe someone
1:03:36
On the machine that I wanted or using the equipment I
1:03:38
wanted. So I'll just finish up the polling. I'll finish up the back work and then going to the
1:03:41
push. I don't obsess over
1:03:43
the alternation in any kind of strict way. I really just try and get the muscles of the Torso trained. And again,
1:03:48
it's two exercises per muscle group. And one of those exercises
1:03:52
is going to be something where there's, I realize, this isn't physiologically
1:03:56
accurate, but a shortening of the muscle, or where they at the end of the movement, the muscle is under maximal contraction.
1:04:03
I could throw out some names of exercises just
1:04:06
For purpose of understanding. So this would be, you know, like
1:04:10
Cable Crossovers for the chest
1:04:11
that the peak contraction is that the end
1:04:14
whereas something like an
1:04:15
incline press. There's more of a stretch provided is done over a full range of motion at the beginning of the movement. So again something where there's a stretch and something where there's a
1:04:22
peak contraction for the shoulders. It's a little bit harder. Do although there are ways to do
1:04:25
that and Jeff cavaliere has excellent workouts available zero cost on YouTube. You also has excellent programs on his athleanx.com
1:04:33
site but certainly has a lot of
1:04:36
When protocols on his YouTube and Instagram. But on YouTube, you can put in
1:04:40
his name and any muscle group that you want to train. It has some
1:04:45
terrific videos, describing exercise, choice and other features of exercise parameters. Again, a peak contraction or shortening of the muscle Peak contraction exercise and a stretching exercise. And so for the
1:04:58
back one
1:04:59
might say, okay I seated row or a bent over row or a dumbbell row, where the elbow is brought behind the tour
1:05:06
So for a peak contraction movement and then for more of a stretching movement, might be something like a
1:05:12
chin-up or a
1:05:12
pull-up. And as I say this, I understand that stretching and Peak contraction, aren't the exact terms that one would use if they were a physio therapist or a strength and conditioning coach. But I think for the typical person who's trying to generate strength and hypertrophy in those muscles or maintain strength
1:05:29
and hypertrophy and those muscles this kind of nomenclature way of describing it at least should be clear and and even efficient
1:05:36
Just to remind you. As with the leg work out, the total duration of the Torso workout is going to be 50 to 60 minutes after a brief
1:05:45
warm-up. The sets and repetitions are going to be dictated in the same way that I described earlier. So for about a month it's going to be
1:05:53
more sets. So anywhere
1:05:55
from three to five sets in the lower repetition range. So forward to eight repetitions. So that's gonna be heavier weights and longer rest. As I described earlier, the rest intervals, and then for the next month, it's going.
1:06:06
To be moderate. Repetitions fewer sets the same way I described earlier. And if you want more details on all of that, you can find that in the newsletter related to the optimal or foundational Fitness protocol, that you can access the huberman.
1:06:20
Lab.com, one thing I should note about the Wednesday torso workout is that I am a big believer in training. The
1:06:26
what I believe is the highly avoided or at least overlooked.
1:06:31
But vitally important aspect of total body, stability,
1:06:34
strength, and safety.
1:06:36
Safety, which is the neck. I realize a lot of people don't want a large neck and I totally understand for aesthetic reasons, why they don't want that. It's kind of interesting. Actually, if you think about it, that people have a large neck are often told they have no neck. People say that guy has no neck or they have no neck. When in fact, they're referring to the fact that they have a very large neck. I don't know how that came to be someone, you put in
1:06:55
the comments. Why? That is how come when people have a
1:06:57
big neck? They refer to it as no neck. So
1:07:00
why do I train the neck? I train the neck for a couple of reasons. One, is years ago, I had an accident where actually fell off a roof
1:07:06
and
1:07:06
I've been training my neck at that time for a
1:07:09
sport that I was involved in and I walked away from it with a sore neck, but not a
1:07:13
broken neck and I thought, wow, it's really great that I have been
1:07:17
training my neck. In addition to that, I was once in a car accident where I was
1:07:21
parked, just bought the car, it's my first new car, purchase
1:07:25
parked in that car with my mother, and my grandfather in the back
1:07:29
seat at the red light. And someone rammed into us at full speed now.
1:07:33
Fortunately, none of us were hurt. We were
1:07:35
all
1:07:36
Rattled. And once again, I was very sore in my back and in my neck, but I think one of the reasons why I was able to essentially walk away from that, I didn't have any sustained damage was because I trained my neck, but I started training my neck for sport,
1:07:52
and I continue to train my neck because I noticed when I don't train my neck, I start getting shoulder issues. And if you talk to an excellent,
1:07:58
physiologists like dr. Kelly Starrett of the ready, State as an excellent Channel, you'll find them are all the social media and standard channels, are you?
1:08:06
Talk to
1:08:08
anyone out there who really understands the strength of the Torso and the upper body and even the back. What you learn is that, of course, being the upper portion of the spine, stabilizing
1:08:18
your neck is very important. Now,
1:08:20
training the neck can be a little bit detailed and specific and even dangerous. If you do it wrong again, Jeff cavaliere has a terrific set of videos on
1:08:27
training the neck properly. I know a lot of people out there, might think neck Bridges and I used to do neck Bridges. I
1:08:33
occasionally still sneak in a Neck Bridge here, there, although I don't recommend.
1:08:36
Many because in discussions with Jeff, he will tell you and it's true that the discs eventually go and you can run into serious issues from doing Bridges, and it
1:08:45
doesn't happen gradually. So, you can't notice it happening. Just happened suddenly. So I might occasionally, do a Neck Bridge. But in general, I'll train neck by wrapping a plate in a towel so that I don't end up with an imprint of the, the weight value on my head or face and then moving the neck from side to side or front or back.
1:09:02
And again refer, we will provide a link to those videos. It's a terrific set of videos.
1:09:06
To
1:09:06
describe how to train your neck properly and safely. So
1:09:08
even if you're not trying to grow your neck, you definitely want to make sure that you use some light weights to make sure that your
1:09:13
neck is stable and upright is a stable and upright because
1:09:17
it's very clear that for
1:09:20
reasons related to texting and staring down at
1:09:22
computers and related to weak
1:09:25
neck, relative to the rest of the muscles that
1:09:27
stabilize the spine. A lot of people,
1:09:30
their default stance or their default posture is with chin forward and that's not good. Not only.
1:09:36
Is it aesthetically not good,
1:09:39
but it also can create all sorts of issues related to back pain and headaches and things of that sort. This is a
1:09:43
real thing, training your neck allows you to stand upright. Sit upright, I
1:09:47
even believe that allows you to do things like public speaking or have conversations with people on the street
1:09:51
in a way where you are
1:09:52
front facing as opposed to looking down.
1:09:54
So Wednesday is torso
1:09:56
and neck and then
1:09:58
comes Thursday. And that means another cardiovascular
1:10:02
exercise session, although it's a brief one.
1:10:06
Unlike
1:10:07
the endurance training on Sunday, the cardiovascular
1:10:09
session on Thursday. And again, for me it falls on Thursday, but for you, it could fall on a different day. Depending on when you started, this protocol
1:10:19
is going to be about again, about 35
1:10:22
minutes of for me running, although it could be rowing, or it could be cycling, it could be something of that sort. The goal of this workout is what's important. The goal of
1:10:31
this workout is to tap into, remember that long list that we talked about earlier where you've got skill and speed and
1:10:36
Power and strength and hypertrophy Etc. Different forms of endurance is to get into that range of endurance where your heart rate is elevated, quite a bit more than Zone 2, but that you're not really going all-out Sprint. So what that means for me is warming up for about 5 to 10 minutes, that could be jogging. A little bit of light,
1:10:54
calisthenics might even be hopping on a stationary bike. Although to be honest I loathe the stationary
1:10:58
bike and then setting a timer and doing about 30, but ideally 35 minutes of
1:11:06
What I call 75 to 80% of all out. Okay, now I realize this spits in the face of all you heart rate monitor wearing
1:11:16
super techie exercise
1:11:18
types. But when I think of all-out Sprint I think of one hundred percent. And what is that? In my mind, that's somebody is chasing me with a needle. Full of poison, and I am sprinting away
1:11:30
at maximum
1:11:31
speed that for me is 100%. So after a brief
1:11:34
warm-up, what I'm going to do is
1:11:36
Out typically outside, although sometimes it has to be on a treadmill if I'm traveling and
1:11:42
move, run for about 30 to 35 minutes at about 75 or 80% of
1:11:47
that. All out.
1:11:48
What that means is that I'm striving to
1:11:51
keep a steady Pace but in reality I don't sometimes have to stop at a stop light. There are cars, please don't run into traffic just to maintain that speed and that timing that would be terribly antagonistic to Fitness and particular
1:12:06
Man
1:12:07
that running tends to be running in which I'm breathing
1:12:10
hard. So I'm not able to restrict myself to purely
1:12:12
nasal breathing and I should have mentioned earlier on the Sunday, long rock or weighted hike
1:12:18
or jog. If I'm alone, I try and do pure nasal breathing
1:12:22
if I'm with other people or I'm
1:12:24
talking obviously I'm not going to appear nasal breathing, because I'm talking although I sure that sometimes they wish I was doing pure nasal breathing
1:12:31
that Thursday workout accomplishes, a number of things. First of all, it really gets my heart rate.
1:12:36
Up and it improves multiple
1:12:38
aspects of endurance. Because as you recall
1:12:40
earlier, the different bins of endurance, that include muscular endurance, anaerobic that 11:57 minute range, and then 30 minutes or longer, none of them. Really precisely match, what's accomplish in this
1:12:51
35 minute or so cardiovascular session, where I'm pushing hard but not all out, but that's exactly the reason to do it, which is that it
1:13:01
Taps into multiple fuel systems for the muscle and multiple aspects
1:13:05
of
1:13:06
of the heart and capillaries and arteries and veins that are involved in generating
1:13:09
that movement. So it
1:13:10
really cuts a broad swath into multiple categories of endurance and
1:13:14
also just keep in mind what this
1:13:16
foundational or optimal Fitness protocol is really designed to do
1:13:20
in my mind a foundational, Fitness protocol is one that leaves
1:13:25
you or has you in a state where if you need to walk really far and
1:13:29
carry a bunch of weight, you can do it. If you need to lift a heavy object with your legs, you can do it. If you need to run, really
1:13:36
I asked for two minutes, you can do it. And if you need to run a little bit further, like maybe even 10 minutes for whatever reason, you can do that. So it's a really kind of all-around fitness program and that 35-minute run again,
1:13:51
could be swapped for the 35 minute, her grow or sometimes, if you only have access to a
1:13:55
stationary bike, you could do that. I suppose, if you didn't have access to any equipment and running is not your thing. One thing that I have done,
1:14:02
especially if I've been stuck in a hotel because I arrived late someplace and I really want to get
1:14:06
This workout in,
1:14:07
you could do the dreaded
1:14:08
Burpee. I know there's a lot of opinions out there. Some people think burpees are downright dangerous. Other people love burpees, you could do
1:14:14
that or you could do really fast, but full jumping jacks. I know it's a little
1:14:20
PE class, right, physical education, class
1:14:23
Ishq, but sometimes, if I need to get the workout in, what I'll do in a hotel, if I've arrived
1:14:27
late particular day of travel is, I will find the stairwell, the fire stairwell. I'll make sure by the way that I can get back into the building because I've been locked in those
1:14:35
stairwells.
1:14:36
And I will simply
1:14:37
walk really fast up the stairwell as many flights of stairs as there are or maybe even jog it,
1:14:42
not quite Sprint but they run up those stairs over and over and over again. In order
1:14:47
to get that 35 minutes of 75 to 80% of Max output cardiovascular work done. And if I'm really just
1:14:54
restricted to my hotel room, I'll just do
1:14:56
jumping jacks for 30, 35 minutes. Sometimes while watching something on
1:14:59
TV and believe me, if you're doing full jumping jacks, like really extending your legs, really getting arms overhead and really doing the
1:15:06
Full movement, my time you hit five or six minutes, you are going to be sweating and you are your heart rate
1:15:12
is really going to be up. I also sometimes will travel with a jump rope. I always try and travel with a jump rope and skip rope much to the dismay of the people Warehouse below me in the hotel room.
1:15:21
Skipping rope. I should mention
1:15:23
can be a very effective way of getting cardiovascular training while you're on the road.
1:15:27
But in all seriousness, if you're in a hotel room or an
1:15:29
apartment and you can't really jump high and you're very good at jumping rope, what you'll find is, it's not going to get you into that higher.
1:15:36
Elevated heart rate zone, okay can be great for Zone 2 type training but if you're
1:15:40
really good at skipping rope and I wouldn't say I'm really good at it but I've done enough skipping rope that I can just kind
1:15:45
of cruise and talk and it's more Zone to wish even feels like walking at times. Now, you can do double unders where you're really jumping and putting the Rope under your twice each
1:15:54
time or crossovers Etc depending on your skill level, but again, if you're in an apartment and you're in a
1:15:59
hotel, that's going to be harder to do and because of
1:16:01
there's some skill involved,
1:16:03
sometimes you're stopping more often than your continuing.
1:16:06
By the way, and I just have to mention this a
1:16:08
really terrific. Instagram
1:16:09
channel is Anna skips. This is a teacher, a science teacher or I believe it's a math maths as they say in the UK because she's in the UK maths teacher, I
1:16:18
don't know Anna, but I know she
1:16:20
skips because she has this amazing Instagram Channel called Anna
1:16:22
skips. And what's really cool about her Instagram and she shows you her progression from not being able to skip rope at
1:16:28
all, to the absolutely incredible types of rope, skipping that she's doing each morning while getting sunlight, which of course is a Essential Health protocol.
1:16:36
Out in a skips on Instagram, really inspiring and made me want to get better at skipping rope. I'm still working on it.
1:16:42
Okay, so, with that Thursday, cardiovascular, let's call it endurance, but cardiovascular, training workout, done around rolls Friday, and on Friday, I'm going to do another cardiovascular training session and I alluded to this earlier. But this cardiovascular training session is also designed to tap into some of the ability of hard. I should say. Hi.
1:17:06
Intensity interval training to tap into strength and hypertrophy increases for the legs. Because remember, we train legs on Monday and what the science tells us is that protein synthesis in a
1:17:19
muscle group. Can be stimulated about every 42 to 72 hours. And so
1:17:24
we've had Tuesday off Wednesday, off and Thursday off, and you don't want to lose
1:17:30
progress that you made from that terrific Monday leg workout. But
1:17:36
In order to make sure that you can do the other things that follow in this program and pick back up on Monday with another leg workout. At least for me with my recovery abilities, in my work schedule. I'm not going to do an
1:17:47
entire other leg workout because it's going to set the whole
1:17:50
thing out of whack that is I won't be able to
1:17:52
consistently. Do the same workout on the same days of each week. Now with
1:17:55
that said a little bit later I'll
1:17:57
explain what happens if you have to miss a workout and how you can combine days Etc. But I really
1:18:01
strive to get certain workouts done on
1:18:04
certain days.
1:18:06
At least as best I can.
1:18:07
So Friday is high intensity, interval training
1:18:10
that can take a variety of different forms
1:18:12
for me. The ideal thing to do for me again, you could do
1:18:17
something completely different exercise Choice again. Should be governed by what you can do safely so you don't injure yourself and that you can perform effectively and that gets
1:18:25
you or provide you the stimulus that you want and what I'm trying to do on
1:18:29
Friday is get my heart rate, way, way
1:18:31
up talked about this in the episode with dr. Andy Galpin in addition,
1:18:36
The benefits of getting 180, 200 minutes of Zone to cardio per week. Minimum, it's a really good idea to
1:18:42
get up to that Max or near max heart rate at least once a week, and you're not
1:18:47
going to do that for very long periods of time. You're not going to that for 30 minutes. You can't Sprint all out for 30
1:18:51
minutes unless you're Steve Prefontaine. If you haven't seen the movies without limits or Prefontaine, you should absolutely see those.
1:18:58
He was able to, you know, go out and run 12
1:19:01
laps, what seemed to be an all-out Sprint. We're close to it incredible but
1:19:06
But most people are not going to do that or going to be carried away on a stretcher. If they try
1:19:10
these high intensity interval training for me, ideally would be on so-called assault bike or airdyne bike. So, these are bikes that have the fan which
1:19:19
might seem like, oh, you know, just cools you off. But actually there's a lot of
1:19:22
resistance there. So what I will typically do is a 20 to 30 second all-out Sprint, using arms and
1:19:29
legs. And then 10 seconds, rest, and then repeat
1:19:33
all-out Sprint for 20 and 30.
1:19:36
10 seconds rest repeat and I'll do that for anywhere from 8 to
1:19:41
12 rounds which trust me even if you start out a little bit less, or I should say not all out intensity or effort by time. You hit the fifth or sixth one. You will be certainly headed into if not
1:19:55
near your maximum heart rate. Now, what is your
1:19:57
maximum heart rate? Do you need a heart rate? Monitor know if you'd like using that sort of thing? Great. But again, Andy Galpin
1:20:03
beautifully, supplied us with the
1:20:05
information. He
1:20:06
Said, if you take the Number 220 and you subtract your age that for most people, most is going to be your maximum heart rate although for certain people who are very fit or certain
1:20:15
ages that's not going to apply so it's a
1:20:16
little bit too crew to measure but it's a good
1:20:19
starting place and you can look up other information or see that podcast episode we provide a link to it in the show. No captions. If you want to get more details on that.
1:20:26
I don't use a heart rate monitor. What I'm trying to do is get to that point where I quote unquote feel like I want to die
1:20:32
now. I don't want to die and please don't die, right? If your
1:20:36
Not in good cardiovascular, health do not just jump right into this Fitness protocol
1:20:40
but I want to get to the point where I really feel like I could not pedal any faster or pull any faster on the, on the assault bike, the airdyne bike, or if I'm doing this workout in a place or at a time or because I
1:20:53
choose to not use a bike or a rower because you could also use a rower. I will simply do Sprint, jog intervals, I will
1:21:01
spring for 20 or 30 seconds, then jog for 10 seconds, Sprint for 20 or 30.
1:21:06
Ins and then jog for for 10 seconds and just repeat. I used to have a big field next to my laboratory, my old laboratory and I used to bring my Bulldog Costello out there. He was really good at the first Sprint part and then you would just lie down and watch. He didn't even do the jog part. I would just go back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, panting like a bulldog
1:21:22
non-stop, barely able to recover
1:21:25
before sprinting again and the
1:21:26
basis of this workout again is several fold. First of all,
1:21:29
it's to get the heart rate, really high up towards maximum heart rate, at least once a week. So you accomplish that this Friday Also
1:21:36
If you are sprinting,
1:21:37
and then jogging, or you are really pushing hard on an assault by Turan airdyne bike, or using a, for instance, a skier, or the skier machine, or any number
1:21:46
of different cardiovascular. Training tools, you are going to get activation of the legs. Of course, not to the same degree as you would
1:21:56
with squats or deadlifts or leg extensions, and leg curls. That's simply not the case,
1:22:00
but you're going to trigger strength and hypertrophy and other types of adaptations.
1:22:06
Tations in those muscle groups. So this for me also
1:22:08
represents the second leg workout of the week, where I'm not touching any weights.
1:22:13
One important point that I don't think, I've heard mention anywhere else, but that, I hope to have dr. Kelly Starrett
1:22:18
on the podcast to discuss in that, I've discussed with him. One on one, which is
1:22:24
be careful with all out, Sprint's or all out, anything cardiovascular,
1:22:28
exercise, you can get injured doing those. So,
1:22:30
for instance, if you go out and you just Sprint across a field all out
1:22:34
20 or 30 seconds and then walk back and
1:22:36
Do it again and again, don't be surprised. If the next day you have some sciatica
1:22:41
or even some pelvic floor pain. I don't recommend going all out on any movement that you can't perform with
1:22:48
perfect form.
1:22:49
Okay, so for me, I really try and stay away from all out, Sprint's I'll
1:22:53
Sprint it about
1:22:54
95% of what I can do because I find
1:22:56
if I go all-out Sprint, I don't know what the reason is, but it might be an overextension of a limb or something like that. I'm not a sprinter. I'm not a sprinting coach, I do hope to gets to
1:23:05
McMillan.
1:23:06
On here or
1:23:07
Dan faff, they were excellent sprinting coaches at some point. They're world-class sprinting coaches, but
1:23:13
I'm not a
1:23:15
pro Sprinter. I'm not even a amateur Sprinter, I'm a fitness Sprinter. So the
1:23:20
Arrow Diner assault bike or the rower is really a
1:23:22
safer option for me. And if I'm
1:23:24
running or I'm doing some sort of movement where I'm unconstrained really in terms
1:23:28
of how far my stride is, I mean, I'm obviously constrained by the musculature
1:23:31
I'm really careful to not
1:23:33
overextend or do something like that. And the only way to do that,
1:23:36
As to not go all out.
1:23:37
So, again, the goal for this Friday workout, it's a really get the heart rate, high, do, high intensity interval training.
1:23:42
Her number different ways. You could do that, you can look up HIIT,
1:23:45
hit workouts online, find the one that's best for you and really pick something that's safe that you can do consistently. And I believe that ideally will also trigger a bit of either strength and hypertrophy
1:23:56
and speed power
1:23:57
maintenance, or even give you a little bit of a stimulus. So that by time
1:24:01
you roll around to that leg workout on, again, on Monday, you've got a little bit of an
1:24:06
It'll boost to your leg strength, hypertrophy speed and
1:24:09
power. So we've covered Sunday through Friday.
1:24:12
And then, Saturday rolls
1:24:13
around and Saturday is when you train arms, calves and neck. So this may sound as, if you're training a bunch of small muscle groups biceps
1:24:24
triceps, necks and calves. And that's
1:24:26
true, but I should mention that you are also training your
1:24:29
torso a second time and you're doing it in directly
1:24:34
or sometimes not indirectly.
1:24:36
Do
1:24:36
I say this? Well, keep in mind again that for strength and hypertrophy, you're going for that once
1:24:41
about every 48 to 72 hours. You want to stimulate that on Wednesday is when you train your torso, right? Chest, shoulders, back and neck.
1:24:51
You've had Thursday to rest Friday, to rest. I know a lot of people are going to want to emphasize those body
1:24:56
parts and I think why you have to train it twice a week. But if you have
1:25:01
modest recovery, ability or low recovery ability such as I do,
1:25:06
I do and you're doing these other cardiovascular. Training sessions, Etc. Will then on Saturday is when you will train arms, calves and neck directly. But included
1:25:15
in that. Remember, two exercises per muscle group, one with a peak contraction,
1:25:18
one with somewhat of a stretch in there, included in that, I suggest doing some sort of dip movement, which I think it
1:25:26
was Pablo satsu. Landsat, the dip is synonymous with, or at least similar to an upper body. Squat. Excuse me, Pavel. If I got that wrong, maybe it wasn't you. That said that but big admirer.
1:25:36
His work. And certainly, the dip is a great exercise to hit multiple muscle groups, it chest, shoulders and triceps, maybe even some back to some extent, depending on how you do
1:25:46
it. So doing some dipping movement will indirectly stimulate strength hypertrophy Etc, in the chest and shoulders and including some sort of pulling movement
1:25:57
for the bicep, like a
1:25:58
chin up or Palms facing movement pulling up from to the bar, especially if it's a closed.
1:26:06
Grip tight movement, but even if it's a wide grip, tight movement will, of course, trigger strength and hypertrophy maintenance or improvements in the biceps, but will also trigger strength
1:26:17
hypertrophy in that lat in the
1:26:20
back. Okay, so Saturday is this arm workout with that. I'll just give an example of a potential work out where you might do a few more exercise and maybe not just to but maybe three to make sure you get the Torso indirect stimulation. So what would this look like? Well this might be your sort
1:26:34
of classic dumbbell
1:26:36
For the bicep
1:26:37
and maybe incline curl for the bicep because it has more of a stretch. So on an incline bench,
1:26:42
and then you might finish with two sets of chin-ups. So Palms, facing your chin UPS or three sets of chin-ups depending
1:26:48
on whether or not you're in a heavier load month or a, or a more moderate weight month.
1:26:53
Again activating the
1:26:55
biceps muscles because arms
1:26:56
day, but also
1:26:58
activating strength and hypertrophy in the latter. At least maintaining it so that because you're not training those torso muscles again until
1:27:05
Wednesday, you're not allowing the hypertrophy and strength gains that you generated on Wednesday to atrophy to disappear.
1:27:14
Then thinking about triceps, it might be some sort of triceps isolation or Peak contraction movement
1:27:20
so that could be tricep Kickback or is some
1:27:22
overhead extension? Would be more of a stretch type movement than a kickback, but then also doing regular
1:27:27
old dips, you might even start with dips, which again are going to activate those torso muscles and the triceps. And
1:27:33
then calf work in the same way that you did.
1:27:36
Monday and neck work again, I am a
1:27:38
believer in training neck, multiple times per week and if you are
1:27:43
able to finish all of that in 45 or 50 minutes, great, most people will find when you're doing a lot of small,
1:27:48
muscle groups actually takes longer because you have to go around two more
1:27:51
exercises. But again, just adhere to the same principles
1:27:54
we talked about before about 50
1:27:56
50 to 60 Minutes of
1:27:57
real work, after a warm-up with an asterisk next to that. That if someone's on the equipment or you can't find the dumbbells, you need etcetera, then maybe 75.
1:28:05
It's Max, but really trying to not extend that work out too
1:28:08
long. Making sure that you activate the arms directly but
1:28:13
also activating the Torso muscles indirectly. And again, I won't repeat it this time again,
1:28:19
but following the same weight and repetition and rest
1:28:22
interval scheme that we talked about earlier, a bit
1:28:24
heavier lower reps, more
1:28:27
sets and longer rest for about a month and then alternating to
1:28:32
more repetitions
1:28:33
yet. Fewer sets
1:28:37
Shorter rest intervals and do that for about a month. This carries through for all the resistance training workouts, regardless of the day of the week.
1:28:44
So we completed the total Arc across the week and we can summarize it as saying Sunday is let's just say long endurance. Monday is leg resistance training Tuesday, heat cold contrast, Wednesday torso training plus neck Thursday I would call it moderate intensity
1:29:03
cardiovascular exercise so that 35 minute
1:29:05
Moderate intensity cardiovascular.
1:29:07
Exercise Friday high intensity, interval
1:29:09
training of sprinting or some
1:29:12
variation thereof and Saturday arms. Calves neck
1:29:14
and torso indirect work.
1:29:17
That's the total structure but I want to emphasize again, you do not need to start this on Sunday. That is, you could make the long endurance work. Start
1:29:25
on Tuesday and then just fill in the rest as described before. It's really up to you.
1:29:31
There's another important point I want to make which is that
1:29:35
Neither. I nor anyone is going to be successful in doing the
1:29:39
exact work out on the exact same days of every week because of travel work illness other demands Etc. The
1:29:46
thing about the schedule that I like so much that, I do believe that will benefit you as well. Is that you have some
1:29:51
flexibility there? What's the flexibility? Well, let's say you
1:29:54
train your typical Sunday work out of endurance, then you train legs on Monday and then you don't manage to do your
1:30:03
heat cold contrast on Tuesday for whatever.
1:30:05
Well, you can put it on Wednesday. Just make sure that if you're going to do the cold stimulus, that you don't do it too close. Not within for ideally eight hours
1:30:16
after the
1:30:18
training of torso but you could do it before or you could do it just heat and
1:30:22
skip the cold that particular week. Alright not ideal, but better
1:30:26
than not doing anything. Let's say, for instance, the leg workout was particularly brutal. You don't sleep that well on Monday night or Tuesday night. Well, then,
1:30:35
You do the Torso workout on Wednesday? Well, I would say, why not move the heat cold contrast to Wednesday and then push that torso work out to Thursday and maybe also try and do that 35-minute run on Thursday. Every once in a while rather than lose, the total control of the program and let everything Shuffle forward. Here's the basic principle. I do believe that any one of these
1:30:59
workouts, whether it's for endurance or resistance, training can be shifted,
1:31:03
either one day forward or
1:31:05
And a back, right? You could delay it by a day or you could accelerate it by A Day In order to make sure that you get
1:31:12
everything done across the
1:31:14
week. In fact, I would say the best way to think about this
1:31:18
foundational. Fitness
1:31:19
program is not from the details up. But
1:31:23
from the top down from the big picture down to the details and say to
1:31:27
yourself once a week, you're going to get some long endurance in another day during the week, you're going to make sure that you get a kind of moderate faster and
1:31:35
Intense workout in and then one other day during
1:31:38
the week, you're going to get an all-out Sprint, high-intensity cardiovascular exercise workout it. You're going to get those three workouts in
1:31:45
somehow. And then in addition to that, you will also do resistance training for every muscle group in your
1:31:50
body. And that means doing your legs hard at least once a
1:31:54
week. Your torso hard
1:31:57
at least once a week and your arms hard at least once a week. And of course, you are, also paying attention to train your calves and I do.
1:32:05
For reasons, I described before believe that you want to train your neck, at least to keep it strong. You may not want to generate
1:32:10
hypertrophy there
1:32:11
people vary in terms of how quickly their net grows. Some people goes very, very fast other people for the life of them. They can't get much hypertrophy in their neck but keeping that neck, strong at least through some very light. Work to moderate weight work. Very, very important for reasons. I stated earlier
1:32:27
if you set out those goals then the specific days that you do each workout isn't as critical.
1:32:35
Kuil but the specific spacing is. So for instance, you're not going to want to do your high intensity, interval training the day
1:32:41
after you, train your legs. Because if you're doing the high intensity interval training correctly, you're going to be taxing your legs and eating into their recovery. And so you want to space them out by two or three days.
1:32:52
So I think you'll notice that the point is really to optimize everything on the whole rather than any one specific
1:32:59
aspect of training or adaptation.
1:33:01
Now that said I do realize that some people
1:33:05
Might be hyper
1:33:06
focused on things like strength and hypertrophy and the Aesthetics that come with it. But key point about strength, hypertrophy and weight training and this is something that has been covered on multiple podcasts. Certainly the one with Jeff cavaliere and with dr. Andy Galpin in the one that I did on building muscle strength and hypertrophy the solo episode.
1:33:25
And that is the following. It is the rare individual who has perfectly balanced musculature. Most people can be a bit
1:33:35
Quad dominant or hamstring dominant or they have trouble activating their glutes or somebody has a terrible time trying to activate the chest muscles but they're very strong in the back. Etc. It's very clear
1:33:47
that we can
1:33:49
know that not just based on Aesthetics, right. But based on deliberate contract
1:33:55
ability of those muscles. So I
1:33:56
don't want to get into this in too much detail for sake of time but this is something that has peer-reviewed
1:34:01
research to support it and was also discussed extensively with Jeff cavaliere.
1:34:05
Was a guest and that actually, he's really
1:34:07
popularized this notion and it's absolutely true. Which is that, if you can contract a muscle very hard to the point where it almost feels like it's cramping, if you can do that, even when there's no
1:34:16
weight in your hand, or there's no resistance against it, so you're just
1:34:20
using your mind muscle
1:34:21
connection to contract, that muscle,
1:34:22
hardened isolate. It chances are you will be able to generate hypertrophy and strength
1:34:26
gains pretty easily in that muscle
1:34:28
compared to muscles that you have a harder time activating. So during all resistance training that mind-muscle link is,
1:34:35
We important so much so that some people will even try and emphasize contraction of the muscles in between sets Etc. I personally because I'm not somebody who
1:34:44
likes a mirror when I workout and I'm not somebody who wants to spend time in between sets, flexing, muscles, and etc. For whatever reason, I want to actually rest between sets and I'm
1:34:54
more concerned with performance during those sets and really
1:34:57
putting my mind into the muscle. During the
1:34:58
set, I really try and emphasize deep relaxation between sets and so here's a tool that again is built out of
1:35:05
Science and I should say, peer-reviewed studies, some of which are being done in my lab, but other labs as well, which is an in between sets.
1:35:12
What I really strive to do is to bring my heart rate down as much
1:35:15
as possible. Calm myself down as much as possible and I'll do
1:35:19
the so-called physiological PSI
1:35:20
in order to do that. That's two inhales through the nose, back to back
1:35:26
and then long full.
1:35:27
Exhale through the mouth. I just did it partially there before sake of time again,
1:35:31
so big, deep inhale, through the nose, and then sneak in a little bit more on
1:35:35
a second. Inhale to maximally inflate the lungs in the AV Oli the lungs, and then a full, exhale of all your air via the mouth to empty your lungs. That's the fastest way that we are aware of to calm your nervous system down and really in between sets, you can use that to calm yourself down and conserve energy. But then
1:35:53
as you move into the weight training
1:35:55
set, you really want to ratchet up your focus and
1:35:59
attention to the muscles that you're going to be using. Now, I'd like to acknowledge that there's a
1:36:02
huge range of parameters in terms of how to
1:36:04
actually
1:36:05
Performed during the set, you can focus on a particular muscle and try and really isolate
1:36:10
from the beginning of the movement. Some
1:36:11
people really try and isolate it only during the peak contraction. Some people accentuate, the - their Speed and Cadence,
1:36:16
there are again. Remember, concepts are few methods are many. And if you're interested in the various methods of eccentric and concentric sand, all the different ways of changing up, Cadence, and so forth. During sets, there's an enormous amount of
1:36:30
quality information out there far, too much for us to get into into detail
1:36:34
now. But what I
1:36:35
Describe the general principles of how to set your mind. If you will during the
1:36:39
set, you should be focused on the muscles that you're using and or moving the weight. If movement of the weight is more important, you can either focus on moving the weight or challenging muscles, right? You can either try and isolate muscles and make specific muscles. Do the work or simply moving
1:36:52
the weight moving. The way to sum is going to be more geared towards strength improvements but
1:36:58
focusing on the muscles so called my muscle link is going to shift that very same set more toward
1:37:03
hypertrophy, I realize I'm painting with a broad.
1:37:05
Brush here. But nonetheless this is
1:37:07
grounded in the way that the nervous system governs muscular contraction.
1:37:10
And while I think most people are familiar with the number of different variables
1:37:14
associated with the resistance
1:37:15
training sets reps, rest intervals, Cadence etcetera. There are also a tremendous number of very important
1:37:22
variables for endurance in any kind of cardiovascular training and there are a lot of excellent resources out there about that. I think the most important one, in fact, I will go on record saying
1:37:33
what I believe to be the
1:37:35
The most important variable for any endurance or cardiovascular training is that because it's a repetitive movement that you're able to complete the movement safely. Meaning, you're not putting your body in to range of motion or into
1:37:49
positions that can damage
1:37:51
joints or put you in
1:37:53
any kind of compromise State. And some of you might think well, that seems kind of silly, but if you've
1:37:57
ever set the, for instance, the seat too high on a stationary
1:38:00
bike and then done, you know, airdyne or assault bike type interval training.
1:38:03
Sprint's if
1:38:05
Set too high and your over-striding as it were the next day. You can really pay the price in terms of some
1:38:10
back pain or sciatica and sometimes that pain can extend for quite a while. So of course, you don't want to approach any exercise with so much caution that it's neurotic and preventive. And yet you don't want to
1:38:19
approach any exercise in any way. That's so Cavalier,
1:38:24
forgive the pun. Jeff
1:38:26
that you're
1:38:27
also going to compromise your the Integrity of your joints and musculature and connective tissue.
1:38:31
Let's talk about some
1:38:32
real-world practical variables.
1:38:35
For instance, let's say you get a poor to terrible
1:38:39
night's sleep. Should you train the next day or not?
1:38:42
Well, that really depends. I can honestly say I've had some of the best training sessions, resistance, training or endurance training sessions after a really poor night's sleep but that's the rare event more
1:38:52
often than not, if I'm
1:38:54
not sleeping. Well, I've had a terrible night's sleep. The next day, I will just
1:38:59
skip training that day. I know that
1:39:01
will shock a number of you out there or perhaps you're already calling me names.
1:39:05
His weak etcetera, but I find that if I've slept really poorly or I've had a very stressful event the day before, and I don't sleep. Well, training, the next day, sets me up for getting ill and getting ill
1:39:16
sets me up for not being able to train for multiple days.
1:39:18
So it is my preference in that case to skip a day and really focus on recovery. And then as I mentioned earlier, slide that work out to the
1:39:28
next day and
1:39:29
rarely double that workout up with another workout.
1:39:33
But then just slide the
1:39:35
Or forward by a day,
1:39:36
but I really try and strive that is I really tried to double up at least some workouts later in the week in that case. So that I can get back on schedule of
1:39:46
starting the seven-day protocol again on the same
1:39:48
day. I don't want to be excessively. Vague there what I'm trying to say is I try and adhere to the same schedule, but if I get a poor night's sleep, I'll just simply skip the workout. The next day,
1:39:57
Slide the workout forward, there is
1:39:59
one exception to that and it's an important exception which is, there are times when I've not slept,
1:40:05
Or I've had some particularly stressful event the day before and haven't slept well,
1:40:11
but I'm able to do so called NSD are non sleep, deep rest the next day. So there have been times when I've only
1:40:15
got three or four hours of sleep the night before, and I'm feeling a
1:40:19
really behind the ball. The next
1:40:21
morning, I really want to get my workout in. So instead, what I will do is a 10 but ideally, in that case, a 30 or even 60 Minutes, non
1:40:29
sleep, deep rest, and
1:40:30
there's a 10-minute non sleep. Deep rest
1:40:32
protocol read by me.
1:40:35
But it is a
1:40:37
non-spiritual non-mystical science supported, non sleep deep rest
1:40:42
protocol available on YouTube. You can simply put my name huberman, put n SDR and virtue, sanvi IRT usan
1:40:50
into YouTube. And you'll find that
1:40:51
script. There are other NST R scripts that you can find now on Spotify and on YouTube. And if you fall asleep, during those non sleep, deep breaths scripts, that's great. And if you don't, you will
1:41:00
also find that it will restore your
1:41:02
ability to perform mental and physical work.
1:41:05
So there are times when I haven't gotten as much sleep as I would
1:41:08
like or I'm feeling a bit more stressed for whatever reason and I'll do NS TR and then I will go train and that often Works fabulously well for me and then I don't have to skip a workout entirely just because I didn't get a good night's
1:41:21
sleep. A lot of people ask whether or
1:41:22
not you should train fasted or fed and this is a very
1:41:25
controversial area. I personally prefer
1:41:28
to do my cardiovascular work, not having eaten anything in the previous three
1:41:35
To 10 hours and typically that's because I wake up and I'll do the cardiovascular training within about an hour of waking up sometimes later because my first meal, generally Falls generally not always falls around 11
1:41:46
a.m. I don't do any kind of formal intermittent
1:41:49
fasting but typically my meal schedule, somewhere between 11 a.m. And my last bite of food is around 8 p.m., but I'm not super strict about that. I might eat in you know as late as 9 p.m. and I might eat something at 10 a.m. if I wake up really hungry, I might have something before 11 a.m. I'm not neurotic about
1:42:05
But in terms of training, I like to train fasted and that includes the resistance training workouts. And those come early in the day for me, and
1:42:12
typically, if I'm going to train legs on
1:42:15
Monday, for instance, which is when I train
1:42:16
legs, I'll make sure that the night before. I'm ingesting, some starch, some carbohydrate like rice or pasta, or something of that. Sort to make sure that when I do that morning leg workout, I have enough glycogen in the muscles Etc.
1:42:28
Again nutrition is a somewhat
1:42:30
controversial area. In fact, it can evoke very strong feeling since I know we've
1:42:35
Vegans, and we've got omnivores. And we've
1:42:36
got carnivores and people are Aikido. This isn't really the format for us to get into all of that. I think the rule to follow is figure out what
1:42:44
optimizes your training for your particular training
1:42:48
goals. For me that most often means training fasted. And then eating pretty soon after I trained. And if it's a high intensity resistance training, workout, and frankly, all of my resistance training workouts are pretty
1:42:59
high intensity. I'm not going to failure on every set, but at least say about 30% of those sets, I'm going to fail.
1:43:05
And
1:43:05
the other sets, I'm working very hard nonetheless. Well then I eat some starches after I train and I also ingest some protein in the form of a protein, drink or a meal, that includes some protein food. But I don't like to eat before I do resistance training, or not. Or at least not within the hour or two before. I do resistance training, there are exceptions to that. And I should say that the same basically applies to endurance work. If I'm going to head out for a run, typically, I don't want my belly full of food or any food at all, but there are times where
1:43:35
Where I wake up hungry and I very much need to eat something or I have something scheduled
1:43:39
socially like a
1:43:39
breakfast, and I'll have that
1:43:41
breakfast. And then an hour or 90 minutes later I'll do my
1:43:44
workout because I want to make sure that I finish the workout. I again I'm not neurotically attached to training fasted or fed for me. Fasted is preferred but if I have to train fed better to train them to not train at
1:43:56
all, we haven't talked so much about flexibility yet, but we did an entire episode of the human
1:44:00
Lab podcast on flexibility. And I encourage you
1:44:04
to check out that episode
1:44:05
Sewed, if you're interested in increasing your flexibility but the basic takeaway from that episode. Is that if you look at what I like to call the center of
1:44:13
mass of the research, that is most of the studies and what the conclusions of most of the quality studies point to. So not the exceptions but the kind of general rules that have been gleaned over time from multiple Labs over
1:44:25
multiple decades Etc. What you find is that static stretching that is holding a stretch and in fact exhaling and
1:44:33
relaxing the midsection
1:44:35
Action and torso, and relaxing into the stretch as opposed to
1:44:39
staying full of air and tense but mentally and physically relaxing into the stretch but not stretching. Maximally that is not extending as far as you possibly can go but more like 60 percent or even less and then holding those static stretches for anywhere from 30 to 60 seconds. And then repeating doing that two or three times throughout the week for multiple muscle
1:45:02
groups. So it could be for your quadriceps could
1:45:04
be / hamstring.
1:45:05
Use for your lats, their protocols out there. In fact, we have a newsletter that is focused entirely on
1:45:10
protocols for flexibility and stretching. You can find that again by going huberman, lab.com, you don't even need to sign up
1:45:16
for the newsletter. Although we invite you to if you like but you can simply go there, scroll down to the flexibility newsletter and all the protocols are there for each of the muscle groups. Etc. But what I typically try and do is some stretching in the evening because I trained in the morning as I'm perhaps getting ready for bed or
1:45:35
If the TV is on which in our house doesn't typically go on because we don't have a TV but of course their computers and, you know, people are on their computers etc. Well, I'll try and do some stretching
1:45:45
while I do that. I also have a standing desk,
1:45:47
so during the day at work regardless of whether or not I train that morning or not, or I'm going to train in the afternoon, I'll try and do some static stretching my hamstrings, my quads, my lats, my shoulders, my
1:45:57
back really doesn't take much time. And I really trying to space that out throughout the week, which if you look at the peer-reviewed research,
1:46:05
Matches. Well, to what's known to be most effective, which are going to be short, repeated
1:46:08
sessions ideally every day. But truth told, I
1:46:11
fail categorically fell. I was about to think of whether or not I ever stretch every day.
1:46:17
I fail to do it every day, but I get about three or so stretching sessions in per week. And again, it's just static. Hold trying to really
1:46:24
relax into the stretch. Now, the
1:46:26
relax into the stretch is something that's been talked about in martial art circles and Pavel. Set Zulan, has an excellent book on stretching, we can provide a
1:46:34
link
1:46:34
To that
1:46:35
talks about. This has a lot to do with relaxation of the nervous system and the way that the nerves innervate muscles and allow
1:46:42
for stretch, if you will, also the way that the tendons and ligaments are innervated by nerves, the
1:46:47
converse is also true. And here again, this is a principle that Pavel has put forth. I believe, he calls it. Irradiation, meaning a
1:46:54
radiating out or
1:46:56
emanating out from a source which is that while exhaling and relaxing, the Torso, the midsection,
1:47:03
some people call it the core.
1:47:04
Although some people don't like that term,
1:47:06
can facilitate relaxation and stretching through a larger range of motion. So to can Contracting the core, the midsection or gripping, very tightly with the fist. Can facilitate muscular contraction because of the way that the nervous system, rep, Ali. I, we can even say over represents the Fists in the brain. And so, how would you apply this to your overall foundational Fitness protocol? Well, it turns out
1:47:34
Doubt that, let's say you're doing a movement that involves
1:47:38
one, limb moving. And then the other, let's say, it's bicep curls, just for sake of example,
1:47:43
it turns out that you will actually be
1:47:44
stronger in moving that dumbbell with the arm that happens to be moving. If you
1:47:50
grip the handle very tightly but also grip the handle of the opposite
1:47:55
dumbbell. Very tightly. Now that said in between sets, I encourage you to do the opposite to try and completely relax in between sets combine that with the physiological side and
1:48:05
And when the set the next set, commences employ that very
1:48:08
strong grip, both again of the of the way, that's moving in the way that at that moment might be stationary or an isometric position.
1:48:15
So the nervous system, of course, is what controls muscles and that
1:48:20
operates in both directions. If you want to relax, try and use long exhales, maybe, even physiological size and really concentrate on mentally and physically, relaxing and particular, your core, and your fists. And if you want to generate force and you want to move,
1:48:34
Of a heavy barbell or dumbbell, you want to do a chin-up with the maximal force.
1:48:39
That's when you can employ the opposite, which would be to grip
1:48:41
the bar or dumbbells, Etc. Very
1:48:42
tightly. And you want to
1:48:45
contract your core or even fill your body with air as they say, plug all the leaks etcetera.
1:48:50
So this gets into kind of form and movement, which is an extensive near-infinite landscape of discussion. Again, that we don't have time to go into just want to mention those two nervous system related tips. Because I
1:49:01
suppose is a neuroscientist, they appeal to me because they are grounded and
1:49:04
Principles of how the nervous system innervates muscle and I know that they will
1:49:08
benefit you the first time you use them and every time speaking of grip and nervous system and fitness and Longevity dr. Peter Atia, who is a medical doctor was a guest on the huberman Lab podcast and provided an enormous wealth of
1:49:19
information on that podcast episode. I really encourage you to check it out when you have time,
1:49:23
and of course, has his own spectacular podcast. The drive
1:49:26
with Peter Atia Peter, dr. Arati I should say
1:49:31
often talks about certain movements were exercises that you
1:49:34
Should perform not just to improve your Fitness but also to touch into or measure how fit you are and how well you are progressing
1:49:41
toward a long lifespan and healthspan and one of
1:49:44
those includes the ability to hang from a bar for
1:49:47
a minute or longer. And there are a number of different expectations that one can have of how long they should be able to hang from a bar, depending on their age and their Fitness level Etc. Please check out dr. Atilla's podcast and his various social media sites to get more information on that.
1:50:03
But what I can tell you
1:50:04
Is that if you're going to hang from a bar and you want to hang from that bar, as long as possible, which turns
1:50:09
out to be a interesting and important metric of your health,
1:50:13
then gripping the bar, very tightly will actually, help earlier we talked about whether or not to train if you're sleep deprived and
1:50:20
how to recover
1:50:20
from what I would say, is moderate
1:50:23
sleep, deprivation by doing NSD are, as opposed to Total sleep, deprivation link being up all night or having a truly miserable night, which case I think you should just skip training the next day and slide it
1:50:33
forward. Now a
1:50:34
Allure issue comes up from time to time where people wonder whether or not they
1:50:38
should train or not, if they are sick
1:50:41
here, there's all sorts of
1:50:43
crazy. Jim lore and sport-specific, lure. For instance, I used to hear this, when I ran cross-country, there was this adage that. If the symptoms
1:50:56
were from the neck up, you could still
1:50:59
train. That is, if you were really
1:51:00
congested and you had a headache, you could still run. Whereas, if it was in your chest and your
1:51:04
Things you can't run. I don't think there's any data whatsoever to support whether or not that's true or whether it's not true for myself and because my general goal is to be training and fit over time, but also to include General
1:51:22
Health, in the fitness equation that is to not be sick or chronically sick and certainly not to get other people
1:51:28
sick. If I have a little tiny sniffle, like I think I might be getting sick.
1:51:34
Even then I'm a little
1:51:36
cautious in the sense that I'm
1:51:37
not going to do my
1:51:39
typical work out. I might stop at about 15 minutes earlier and I would do that not by neglecting any body parts or anything of that. Sort of, it's a weight training workout,
1:51:48
by by simply reducing the total number of sets.
1:51:51
I probably wouldn't do any sets to failure. If I did, I might reduce the total number or percentage of sets to failure from about 30% of sets to maybe closer to 10% of sets something like that.
1:52:02
And if it was endurance work, I might throttle back.
1:52:04
Ten or twenty percent, and I will shorten the total duration of the
1:52:08
workout. And I often find that
1:52:10
because of the known. Yes, peer-reviewed known immune system. Enhancing effects of exercise, sometimes that alone will allow me to avoid getting
1:52:19
sick. But of course, I'm also careful to get home. Take a hot shower, not stress. Myself out. If I can avoid getting myself stressed out and focus on sleep and SD are other forms of recovery. Good nutrition, Etc.
1:52:32
If however, I have a real sniffle a cold
1:52:34
I'm not feeling well or I think I might be coming down with the flu. I absolutely do not
1:52:38
train and I don't get back into training of any kind until I'm completely recovered.
1:52:44
So, what I'm basically saying is that, no, I don't believe you should train if you're
1:52:47
sick. And perhaps
1:52:50
equally importantly, when you come back from a layoff of any kind, whether or not because of illness or, for whatever
1:52:56
reason, I do believe that because your body is a bit
1:53:00
untrained, it's not ideal to jump right back into maximal training and to take
1:53:04
One, maybe two weeks of ramping up the to the full
1:53:08
duration and intensity of workouts that, then I would continue ongoing for however many cycles I can complete before I hit another sickness, or I had another Gap in my schedule due to family obligations or other obligations
1:53:23
Etc. So we've covered a lot of tools and
1:53:24
protocols and variables related to Fitness but we have by no means covered all the available tools and protocols and variables.
1:53:33
Before we wrap up I do want to
1:53:34
Emphasize one tool, it's a very easy. In fact,
1:53:38
zero-cost very low time, commitment tool.
1:53:41
And this was one that was provided Again by dr. Andy
1:53:44
Galpin, when he was on the huberman Lab
1:53:46
podcast, and it's a tool that there is excellent research to support the effectiveness
1:53:51
of and that I do believe should come at
1:53:54
the end of every training session. And that's to do three to five minutes of deliberately, slow breathing. It sounds so simple three to five minutes of
1:54:04
Liberally slowed breathing. So this could be while you're in the shower,
1:54:07
or when you arrive at your car, you might sit in your car quietly and do that if you have time or maybe even while you're driving that to or on to your next destination
1:54:17
just to really slow down your breathing to really look at the recovery period that has
1:54:24
to follow each training session and of course, during which the adaptations the changes that make you more fit than you were going into the exercise occur and that three to five.
1:54:34
It's of deliberately, slowed breathing has been shown in Andy's group, and in related experiments not exactly the same but related experiments in our laboratory. And another Laboratories to really so-called downshift, the nervous system and really set you up for maximal, Recovery, rapid recovery and allow you to lean into
1:54:52
the next training session with full intensity when that training session eventually
1:54:56
arrives. So it's a very simple tool but a very potent tool
1:55:00
for your overall Fitness.
1:55:01
So thank you for joining me for this discussion of what I'm calling.
1:55:04
A foundational best we could even get bold and call it an optimal Fitness protocol though.
1:55:10
The word optimal is a tricky one. There's
1:55:12
no real optimal Fitness protocol
1:55:14
and today what I've really tried to focus on is
1:55:17
this foundational protocol
1:55:18
because it does allow you to check off most, if not all the
1:55:22
boxes related to strength
1:55:25
endurance, hypertrophy speed, power flexibility
1:55:32
will also teach you how to regulate your nervous system up.
1:55:34
And down that is to
1:55:35
ramp up and focus on muscle link Etc.
1:55:39
And then quickly calm down physiological size, three to five minute decompress breathing, at the end of
1:55:43
training, Etc. Really, even though I talked about the protocol
1:55:46
that I follow and again that we will provide as a newsletter at huberman live.com. If you want to look at it in more
1:55:52
detail, even though we talked about it in the context of what I do. Again, I really want to emphasize that this
1:55:59
protocol and the description of this protocol and all its variables, it's really for you and for you to take
1:56:05
To your specific needs. So, please
1:56:07
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1:56:11
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