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Discipline Equals Freedom -- Jocko Willink
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Discipline Equals Freedom -- Jocko Willink

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Good evening. This is Jocko willing and I am standing in as the host for the Tim Ferriss show, and I'm doing some talking because right now, mr. Tim Ferriss, can't talk to you himself, because he is in a silent Retreat where he's remaining in complete silence for I, think, 10 days.
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And it's not just silence. It's actually also no books. No computers. No phones. Obviously, it's just pure silence alone with your thoughts. Not exactly. What I would want to do, but sounds kind of crazy, and it sounds like something Tim Ferriss would do. But in the meantime, like I said, I am here to guest host this show, which is awesome. I appreciate that opportunity.
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And thanks to Tim Ferriss for giving me that opportunity now a little bit about my background first. If you want to know about me, one of the best places to find out about me is actually on this podcast as well. Tim Ferriss episode number 107 and that was released in September of 2015. And that was the first time I was ever interviewed really for anything. And I had been in the sea.
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All teams for 20 years. I've never done any interview. I never had any social media didn't have a website. I really didn't exist in the public eye at all. And so, my background is that I grew up in a small, New England, town. I enlisted in the Navy. After High School. I went through boot camp. I went to Seal training. I spent some time at Seal. Team won in the 90s and eventually got picked up for a commissioning program, which meant I was going to become an officer.
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the SEAL Teams and move into a leadership position and eventually, once I did that,
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The war started in September, September 11th, 2001 and from there. I deployed to Iraq as a seal platoon commander. And then as a seal task unit Commander, when I was a task unit Commander, I fought in the Battle of ramadi ramadi, Iraq, the capital vowel on bar Province and very tough fighting. Incredible effort by the soldiers, and Marines on the ground. And also the
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Guys that were with me as well from my seal task unit and ended up being the most highly decorated Special Operations unit from the Iraq War and incredible. Sacrifices were made for that Victory. And when I got back from that deployment to Iraq, I took over the training for the West Coast SEAL Teams and the training that I took over isn't the training where you've got the boat on your head or you're carrying the logs around or your
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doing a bunch of push-ups and pull-ups and runs and swims. It's the real training where seals actually learn to be seals to shoot move and communicate to Fire and maneuver to close with and destroy the enemy. And they learned about combat leadership. And I did that for my last few years in the SEAL Teams taught that and then I retired in 2010. And when I did that, I started working with companies with businesses and helping out with their
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Ship and their management. And that developed into a leadership and management consulting company, which is called Echelon front that I run with my buddy. And former teammate lafe Babin, who was one of the platoon commanders that worked for me in the Battle of ramadi and we wrote a book together, which was called Extreme ownership. And that is how I ended up being on Tim's podcast for the first time. We had some mutual friends, Kirk parsley. And dr. Peter Atiya, and they made the
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Intro. And that's how I ended up on this podcast the first time. And that book extreme ownership is a book about leadership. Really its combat Leadership Lessons Learned and tested on the battlefield that that we then taught to the next generation of seals. And now we're out there teaching these leadership principles to businesses and teams and organizations throughout the civilian world. And also in law enforcement in fire, departments.
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In any type of organization, so that's what we're doing now and as that book was launching. Like I said, I went on Tim's podcast. It was awesome. And we got done with that podcast. When Tim pressed stop on the recorder. He said you should really have your own podcast. And I kind of, you know, I listen to him but I had a bunch of stuff going on. The book was coming out and what not? And then, Joe Rogan heard that podcast and asked me to come on his podcast and in the middle of that podcast.
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Joe Rogan said you should have your own podcast. So I guess when Tim Ferriss and Joe Rogan tell you you should have your own podcast, then you should listen and I did. And so I started my own podcast, which is called Jocko podcast and really, it's a podcast about human nature and and it's human nature as viewed through the lens of war, and other human struggles and is definitely focused on leadership.
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But it also often reveals the Dark Side of mankind and the podcast can get pretty heavy and pretty dark, but it's not all like that. And I also know as we did the podcast as I continue to put it out there. I also talked about all kinds of other things about life and how I live about surfing and about Jiu-Jitsu and about working out and about eating and how I
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I eat and sleeping and how I sleep and how to wake up earlier and how to overcome procrastination and how to accomplish goals, and how to get the most out of life and all those kind of things you basic winning, and in there, I wrote a book for kids and a book that I wrote for kids is called way of the warrior kid.
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And it's you know, it's about a kid that's having a tough time at school. He didn't know how to couldn't do any pull-ups and he didn't know his times tables. So he kind of felt stupid and he didn't know how to swim because he was afraid of the water and he was getting picked on at school. And the last day of school, everything kind of comes crashing down on him and he goes home, all sad, but when he gets home, he remembers that. His uncle is coming to stay with him for the summer. And his uncle was a seal in the SEAL Teams.
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And so his uncle finds out what these problems are that the kid is suffering through and says, look, I know you can't you can't swim. You don't know how to do any pull ups or you can't do any bolts. You don't know your times tables. You're getting picked on at school. You we can handle those problems. So they go on a little journey and the uncle uncle Jake teaches young Mark, how to overcome all these challenges and so that book came out and but people were asking for sort of details on the
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of my life about, you know, not about the leadership stuff, but about my sort of
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Kind of operating system. And So eventually, I put that down kind of my mode of living into the way I live. And this book is called discipline equals freedom field manual and it just came out October 17th. And that's how I ended up doing this podcast for Tim because like I said Tim is I guess? Fortunately or unfortunately depending on how you're looking at. It Tim is it's not allowed to talk right now and so he but
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Read the book just before he went into his period of silence, and he wanted me to come on while he was not able to speak. And talk about some of the high points that might be, that he thought would be a useful introduction to people that listen to his podcast. So that's why I'm here. If you were expecting Tim. I apologize. I know that's always a bummer. When you're expecting to have that person that you, you know, and you
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you're, you're anticipating hearing their voice. And then it turns out not to be that person. So, if you've made it this far, thank you. And here we go. The book is broken into sections. The sections over section is called thoughts. And the second section is called actions. And the thoughts section is about
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Well, basically, it's what goes through my head. It's how I view and how I think about things and Tim wanted me to focus on the actions part, but for one, example of what is in the thoughts category. I'm going to the book here. This is directly from the book, discipline equals freedom field manual.
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Here we go. People want to know how to stop laziness. They want to know how to stop procrastination. They have an idea in their head. Maybe even a vision.
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But they don't know where to start, so they ask and they say where do I start? When is the best time to start?
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And I have a simple answer.
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Here. And Now,
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That's it. You want to improve, you want to get better? You want to get on a workout program or a clean diet or start a new business? You want to write a book or make a movie or build a house or a computer or an app? Where do you start? You start right here. When do you start you start right now. You initiate action, you go.
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Here is the reality that idea isn't going to execute itself. That book isn't going to write itself. Those weights out in the gym. They aren't going to move themselves. You have to do it, and you have to do it now. So, stop thinking about it. Stop dreaming about it. Stop researching every aspect of it, and reading all about it and debating the pros and cons of it. Start doing it.
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Take that first step and make it happen. Get after it here. And now,
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So, that's the kind of things that are in the book, the first part of the book, which again, is called thoughts. And like I said, the second part is what I actually do to implement those thoughts into my life. And of course, Tim being mr. Pragmatic. Look, how do we get to it? How do we make it happen? He asked me to detail some of those for you and one of the things that he wanted me to talk about.
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Was early morning training and what role getting up early, because I get up early in the morning. What role that plays in my life and why I kind of maintain that and have maintained that for a long time. And there's one section that talks about kind of a little psychological Edge that I believe the waking up early in the morning gives anyone that wakes up in the early in the morning, so
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Here's a little chunk of the book where I talk about that psychological Edge.
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There are a slew of psychological advantages that come from early morning physical training first. There is a psychological win over the enemy knowing that you are working harder than your adversaries, gives you an advantage. It gives you confidence that you can overcome them in battle.
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Another advantage to waking up early and working out hard. Is that it demands discipline to do both. Now some scientists have claimed that discipline dissipates the more it is used that willpower is a finite resource. That is reduced. Every time it is used throughout the day. This is wrong that does not happen to the contrary. I believe and Studies have shown that discipline and willpower do not go down as the
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Are called into action. They actually get stronger.
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This is obvious. If you actually try the experiment yourself before you go to bed plan. What workout you're going to do in the morning stage, your workout clothes. So you don't even have to think about them. When you get up, write down a list of things. You need to accomplish the next day.
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Set your alarm clock for 4:30 a.m. And go to sleep. When the alarm clock goes off, get up.
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Put on your pre-staged clothes, brush your teeth, and go, get your workout on hard, get done shower, get dressed and begin to crush the lists of tasks you made for the day.
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When his time for breakfast, see what happens. You won't want to eat junk. You won't want that disgusting, donut. You want some eggs and bacon? And that will happen a launch to you're feeling good. Energized. You don't want to eat that worthless calories of pizza or french fries. You want fuel? Good fuel to rebuild your body, clean fuel. That keeps your mind Sharp.
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When you're on the path, you want to stay on the path?
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Unfortunately, the opposite is also true. Once you step off the path, you tend to stray far. When you don't prepare what you need to do. The next day, when you sleep in, and then skip your workout, and you don't start attacking the tasks, you have because you didn't write them down the night before that is when you make bad decisions.
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That is when your will and discipline fail.
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You figure you might as well have that doughnut have that doughnut for breakfast. And once you've done that might as well put down four or five pieces of pizza for lunch.
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It doesn't matter anymore. You're off the path and that is a disaster.
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You will didn't break it, never showed up in the first place.
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So, get on the path of discipline and stay on the path.
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Discipline begets. Discipline will propagates. More will?
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Hold the line across the line.
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And victory will be yours.
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So,
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That's why I wake up early in the morning and work out. And also, in the book I talk about how you actually start getting up early in the morning because this is a big challenge for a lot of people. I know it, I get it and there's a bunch of ways to do this. In one of the most important things to allow you to get up early in the morning is to go to bed earlier, but going to bed earlier is also a challenge.
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When I talk about this in the book, but how do you how it? What's the most important thing to put into place to go to bed? Earlier is
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Number one, you want to be tired, when you get to the end of the day, you want to be tired? That's how you get to go to bed earlier. Number to turn off the internet because they've got these little people that are programming things into the interwebs that are truly. Just meant to get you to click one more time. Just click one more time and watch one more, one more video.
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One more stupid video. That's not getting you anything. Not improving you in any way. So, turn off the internet and if you need to do something, then read a book, pick up a book and read a book and the most important thing to allow you to go to bed earlier. The most important thing you can do is actually get up earlier.
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Right. That's what happens. You when you get up earlier. Well, then you're more tired by the end of the day and then you can go to sleep and that gets you in the right pattern. So the way you start getting the way you start going to bed earlier is by getting up earlier.
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And again, I detailed this and the way that pattern kind of unfolds itself in the book. Now. Another thing that Tim wanted me to hit on was my actual workouts. Like, what my workouts look like from week to week and I'll say this, I have a bunch of
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A bunch of kind of standard workouts that I use and they may vary a little bit depending on what I'm feeling like, or what is needed. Or maybe I got some little injury that I have to cover up, or, or maybe I'm really tired from some other workout that I did. So, I need to make an adjustment, or maybe I haven't worked out in a few days. So I'm going to go even harder. So, there's little adjustments that go by and, and I actually took a lot of these standard workouts that I have, and I put them in the book again. This is something that people really
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To hear from me what my workouts actually were. And so I put them in there and, and they go from the beginner level from from people that really haven't worked out before all the way to intermediate all the way up to Advanced. And and I've been able to die. I actually own a gym in California. A big mixed martial arts gym, but we've got all kinds of new. We've got Olympic lifting, we've got, we've got everything in there. And so I've seen people and train people at all levels from
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From, you know, total non-athlete that haven't done anything active in years all the way to the highest level athletes that are fighting professionally in the UFC. So I've seen and brought people through those different. Those different categories over over the past 10 years that I've been training civilians. So, that's, that's what this book contains his what those are like. Now. I also go after different goals, because
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You want to be chasing something, at least I do. I want to be chasing something. I want to be trying to achieve something but I don't just continually chase the same thing. So sometimes I'll be trying to me. Maybe I'll spend a month trying to increase my deadlift and get get my dead, lift up there. And then sometimes I'll be just trying to run and get my my three-mile timed run, or my 4-mile timed run down, or sometimes. I'm trying to max out and pull ups and see how many pull-ups I can get. And, and so, I'm kind of always chasing some.
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Goal of some kind and I never go too far in One Direction because I think that that would not suit me for the way. I live, for instance. If I was just trying to get a massive deadlift, which is awesome. But if that's my sole purpose is to get a massive deadlift. Well, then I'm going to be as big and strong as possible. But that's obviously going to hurt my Mobility. It's going to hurt my cardio and
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I get to a point where, you know, I may be some percentage of my percent of my capability and then once I get to that percentage and I get to that point where I'm really gonna have to change my lifestyle and cool in order to increase beyond that. That's when I say, okay. You know what I've this is one of my deadlift is out right now. Let's start looking at how many pull-ups I can do or let's, let's start seeing one other exercise. I can move on to and and find some other challenge. So that's sort of what my
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My workouts are, like, I'm always chasing something. The other thing with this is people get really fanatical about working out in and they get into the where their workout becomes a form of religion. And, and that's one of the reasons that I never really talk specifically about what I do for my workouts, because I don't really like to preach about. You know, you should do this or you should do that. So I'm but people are interested. So that's, that's why I put it out there.
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And it is, you know, the kind of training that I do. It - it definitely has been effective for me over the years in my various jobs. So, but I'm not a person that says, hey, my way is better than everyone else's way. I'm not one of those people. I'm not saying that at all actually. There's people that know more than me and there's people that have the better methodologies or different methodologies that work well for their system and that's cool.
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That's cool. If you if you want to text or whatever put on social media eight thousand times, that you have something better. That's awesome. I appreciate your input. But I've been doing what I'm doing done for a long time and it's not a religion to me. It's just a cool way of working out. So my workouts are kind of split into some broad movements the broad mover and movements are pull push.
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Lift and squat and how those breakout pole is basically centered around pull-ups. And in Seal training, you do a lot of pull-ups and push-ups are obviously important cause you got to be able to pull yourself up, climb, ladders all those things. And so and it's also good to know that you can move your body weight around. So pull ups are a huge part of my workouts and pull-ups is what the pulled a is centered. I'm going to do all different kinds of Pull-Ups.
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It's close grip and narrow, grip, and wide grip and ring pull ups and and climbing ropes. And obviously pull-ups on a pull-up bar. And so the so that's what the pulled a is, is based on the push day is again, it goes back, it's rooted in Seal training, which is the push day. Is basically centered around push-ups and dips.
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And so again all the different kinds of push-ups and all the different kinds of dips ring, dips bar, dips push-ups close grip, push ups, wide grip. Push-ups dive bomber force. All these different types of push-ups that you can do. That's what that pushed day is centered on. The lift day is, for lack of a better way to explain this. The lift day for me is primarily about getting things off the ground and over my head. So, so that means deadlifts. It means, cleans it.
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Is clean and jerk. It means press. It means snatches. It means handstand push-ups, those kind of exercises. That's what the lift day is to me. And then finally squat, which could also be called leg day, but that obviously focuses on all different, kinds of squatting from back, squat and front, squat, and overhead Squat, and all the other types of variations of squats that there are. But also, it's not just squatting because I
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Do Plyometrics and sprinting and calisthenics that are leg focused? So those are the kind of the four categories. Pull, push lift and squat and then on top of those I do gut which I guess it's what normal people kind of call core or ABS, but I just have always called a gut, again, that's rooted in the SEAL Teams. They would. When I was a new guy and night.
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1990 whatever. They'd say we're going to do some gut work. And what that meant was, you're going to work out your abs. You're going to do sit-ups. You can do Russian twist. You can do all flutter kicks, all those things and and then on top of that,
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I do metabolic conditioning, and, and the way I do metabolic conditioning, which is basically, that means you're going to be breathing hard, really hard for either a short, intense amount of time or maybe a little bit longer, but that's that's what I definitely do. Metabolic conditioning in the reason. I do. Metabolic conditioning is so that I'm in good shape, so I can sustain a high output for short bursts and multiple short bursts and over longer periods of time and
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Mix that in sometimes with the workout itself and sometimes I do it before the workout. Sometimes I do it after the workout. And I mean, if you, if you talk about what my workouts consist of as far as time goes my workouts, just depend on what's going on in my world in that day. Some of my workouts are very quick and I can get them done in less than 10 minutes and they make you want to throw up. And at the same time.
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I'm some of them sometimes I'm working out for three hours, you know, maybe doing singles and doubles and triples on waits for heavy exercises. So and it depends, it depends what I'm doing, what my current goal is, how I set those up and also depends on what life is throwing at me. Obviously, all out on the road somewhere. You can't always do heavy squats because your hotel gym. Only has two thirty five pound dumbbells, which really puts the
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Heavy squats out of the picture. So you got to be able to adapt and make something else happen. So, Tim asked that I talk about what an actual series of workouts from me, would look like. And so like I said in the book, I actually put the workouts in the book and so I'll kind of read through some of these workouts.
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A few days so you get the feel for what it is. And these are I went right to the advanced workouts. Again, there's beginner intermediate and advanced. Maybe I'll talk a little bit about some of the beginner ones too, but there is a place to start. If you can't do anything you can still get started. But the advanced. Here's a here's an example of what I would do on a pole day for for an advanced workout. So here we go.
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The primary work is going to be 30 muscle ups in a muscle-up is on rings. You can do them on a bar to. I do them usually on rings. A muscle-up is where you hold onto Rings or bar. Like we like you're going to do a pull-up. You do a pull up, but you pull yourself all the way up and then press through until you've done a dip and now you're in the dip position, either on top of the bar or on above the Rings, so it's called a muscle up. If you can't understand my description then
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Can go to YouTube and look up muscle up and you'll see him so 30 muscle ups and then a hundred dead, hang pull ups, and then a hundred Kipping, pull-ups. And I'll do all those for time as fast as I can. And then when I get done with those, I'll do some Hank liens which again this is a place where you want might want to go to YouTube and check out. What a hang clean is. YouTube is a incredible instrument and tool for for trying to learn. That being said, when you go and you look at the YouTube video,
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Dio. What you think you're doing is not what you probably are doing and that's why getting a coach to help you is very important. I remember, one time. I was coaching a guy in boxing and in boxing you you're supposed to move your head from side to side, just certain movements that your head is supposed to have. And I was I was watching him do it and he said, you know, how is my head movement looking at? I hadn't trained him in a while. He said he said How's my head movement? Looking at him looking and I said well go ahead and let me see it. And so he
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Doing in his, it was hilarious because his head was staying absolutely still. But his shoulders were, he would lift his left shoulder. Then lift his right shoulder, then lift his left shoulder than lift his right shoulder. But his head was staying still. And I said, okay, it's okay. Just come here and look in the mirror because when you shadow box use a mirror and he looked in the mirror and he saw what was happening and in his mind his head was moving back and forth from left to right. But in reality, the only thing that was moving was his shoulders lifting up. So you have to be very careful when you're
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When you're lifting weights that you you truly are doing what you think you're doing in. The easiest way to do that is to have a coach come and watch you do your movements. So for instance, the hang clean is a is a movement that I would do next in this workout and I would just do probably six sets, six, sets of between three to six repetitions. And again, I'm just trying to maintain good form.
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And then get done without. So I've done 30 muscle-ups. I've done a hundred dead, hang pull ups in a dead, hang pull up. If you don't know what that is. That's where you don't use any motion of your body. You're using pure strength, and then I do a hundred Kipping bulbs. Oh, and before everyone thinks I'm lying or whatever. I can't do. A hundred dead. Hang pull ups in a row. I can't do 30 muscle ups in a row. I can't do a hundred Kipping pull-ups in a row. I am what I'm going to talk about doing these, I talked about doing as many as I can, and then I have to stop and Shake It Out.
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And then I jump up and do some more. So, maybe for my Hundred dead, hang pull ups, maybe my first set. I only get 14 dead. Hang pull ups. I drop off the bar. I shake it out. I jump up there and I do another 10. So now I'm at 24 and then I can't do anymore. So I drop off the bar. Maybe I get another set of 10 then I'm at 34 and so that's what I'm going to do until I get to a hundred when I get to a hundred dead. Hang pull ups. Now it's time for me to do Kipping pull-ups and I'll do the same thing. Maybe the first set. I do 40 Kipping, Pull-Ups.
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I've done 40 a shake off. The bar are drop off the bar. Shake it out a little bit. I'll jump up back on the bar. Now. I do 20. So I'm up to 60 and now I drop off the bar. I do it again. I go to 80. So so that's what I'm talking about. You're going to break up these sets until you can get the number that you're aiming for. So then after I done 30 muscle-ups, a hundred dead, hang pull ups, a hundred Kipping pull-ups, then I jump into doing some six sets of hang cleans with a weight that allows you to do three to
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Repetitions per set while you're still maintaining good form and it's again. It's critical to maintain good form. And then I would do five sets of reverse curls followed by regular curls now.
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I used to, I went through the stage of saying all curls. You know. Those are those just the exercise for looking good? And I was kind of derogatory on doing curls but I changed my mind. I would say a few years ago. I changed my mind because well, I hurt my bicep and when I hurt my bicep I said to myself well, maybe my bicep isn't as strong as it should be and the tendons going into it, maybe aren't as strong as they should be. And so maybe I
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Use a little bit of isolation training on those muscles to make them stronger. And so that's why I started doing and it's it's worked out. Well my my bicep healed and it's hasn't been injured since then. So so that's an exercise that even though people might think, oh, Carl's that's a body building exercise. Why would I do that? I don't care about looking good. I just want to be strong. Well, it makes you stronger to, so that's, that's the curls then from there. I would do some gut work. The the got work I have.
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Listed on this particular workup is a hundred v-ups, which is when you're laying flat on your back arms, extended above your head feet extended, as far as you can, and then you close up like a jackknife in a V position until you touch your toes, to your fingers and then you lay back down, do a hundred of those. And then a hundred Russian Twists, which is when your feet are up in the air. Your, your torso is up in the air and you're bringing your hands back and forth from side to side.
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Get on with that and then I would do a little metcon work. So metabolic conditioning and for this one here, I have listed do four sets of cleans and pull-ups with the following repetition. So I do a set of 20 cleans followed by 20 pull-ups, then 15 cleans followed by 15 pull-ups than 10 cleans followed by 10 pull-ups, then five cleans followed by five bulbs, and that's what I would do and for the cleans that use
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Only about 60 percent of my body weight to do cleans. And there you get a little you little cardio work during that. You will be breathing hard. I promise if you give that a shot. So there's an example of a workout that I would do. And for my pulled a, you know, I'll talk about for, let's just do one more. Go, go for a push day, push day. Here's a another workout.
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So, for this push day, I would be doing three minutes on and one minute. Rest of the following exercises ring, dips, which are dips using gymnastics rings. Ring. Push-ups dips, clap push-ups deep push-up. So, I do those deep push-ups in in parallettes, which are something or you something, where you can go deeper than your normal range of motion. If you're on the floor, and then just regular push-ups on the floor, and so I'd set my time.
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Myrrh, for 3 minutes of work and followed by one minute of rest, and then I'd go through the ring dips as many as I can free minutes, then, rest a minute and then do the same thing for the ring. Push-ups the dips, the clap push-ups, the Deep push-ups, and then regular push-ups. And once my time is up, and this is something I always do is that when I get to that last set, the last set is kind of the easiest exercise. So regular push-ups are easier than clap push-ups and they're easier than deep push-ups. When I get there. I'm always going to do a hundred at that last, that last
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Set so and again, that doesn't mean I can do a hundred push-ups in a row, especially after I've done all this other work, but I will continue to take rests and break up the set until I can get to what I want to do until I get to that number of a hundred. Now, I get done with that and I would do some repetitions of the snatch movement, the snatches of really hard movement to do. And again, YouTube has some good visuals of what it looks like to do is snatch. But if you're going
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To start snatching. You really need to get someone to watch you and a good qualified coach that can that can watch you and make sure that you're doing these exercises right? And you know, I would do some repetitions of that just to keep just to build my own muscle memory and try and get better at the exercise. I'm not great at that exercise and then do some gut, hold a plank for five minutes. And then for the metcon for the metabolic conditioning, I do three rounds of Max burpees in three minutes.
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With one minute of rest between the rounds. And that right there.
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That will inflict some damage audio. If you go hard, you actually two minutes of burpees can Crush people. If you go as hard as you possibly can for two minutes of burpees it can it can leave a mark and leave a mark. I will tell you. Now for the lifting again. You got to be really careful and make sure that your your Technique is absolutely critical and you got to if you sacrifice your form you will it will not make you stronger. It will actually make you in.
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Dirt. And I wrote that in the book that right there. Sacrificing proper form, will not make you stronger. It will only make you injured. So try and find a good coach that's going to teach you these things. And for this, for instance, on a lift day in this, in this workout, that I've gotten the book. It's you I would do eight to ten sets of clean and jerks building up to four sets that with a weight that allows me to do two to four repetitions.
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So I'm just doing eight to ten sets, taking some time in between. You said, this is a day where i'm trying to get stronger trying to build my strength, trying to build my clean and jerk. So it's pretty simple, pretty straightforward, eight to ten sets of clean and jerks and I'm doing I'm trying to build up to where I do 4 of the sets are with a pretty heavy weight that I can only do two three, maybe four times get done with that. I'm going to do some hanging windshield wipers from my gut which is when you hang from a bar.
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You bring your legs back and forth. Like I said, it windshield wipers. They're Brutal, by the way. So be the be ready for that. Sounds all sounds all easy. They're not. And then for the mat con, I would do this here, about 60 percent of body weight, 30 reputation, repetitions of clean and jerks.
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Without putting the bar down. Once you get done with that, rest two minutes do 20 repetitions of clean and Jerks with the same way. Get done with that. Rest, two minutes. All those without putting the bar down. Then the last one you perform 10 repetitions. So you do you get about 60 percent of your body weight. You do 30 Reps. Don't put the bar down during the 30 reps of once. You're done with the third graph. You can put the bar down rest for two minutes.
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Then pick up the bar again, do 20 reps. Same weight. When you're done with that, put the bar down. Rest for 2 minutes, 2 minutes is up, do it again, 10 repetitions. And then you're done. That's going to get you some. It's a tough workout. I can assure you. And lastly, for for a squat day.
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What I would do here is just going to do some some some squats. I would do 50 overhead squats with about 60% body weight. And again, this is something to break up. You're going to do what you can. You get done with 50 reps of that. You can do 50 front squats with about eighty percent of your body weight, and then 50 back squats with your body weight. That's it. Pretty simple. Get done with that. Do some gut.
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Hundred sit-ups with 20 percent of your body weight sitting on your chest and the metcon is to run two miles and I usually like to do some kind of a run when I get done, squating because it kind of loosens up the legs and get some of that lactic acid. Moved out of there. So, those are some examples of the workouts that I do. And then I would, I normally just go right back into the workout. However, sometimes after a brutalized myself for multiple days in a row, I
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feel like crap. And so I might take a rest day. And what I do on a rest day is I'll still do something. Maybe I'll just go for a jog. Maybe I'll go for a swim. Maybe let's go in there and do some some burpees to warm up and then just do some good stretching, but I don't like to take a lot of days off, scheduled days off because I think life brings me days off when the more often than I need. So whether it's you're traveling or whether it's your water heater breaks, or your car broke down.
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Or your kid got sick and you have to miss her workout. That's when I take my days off when I'm forced to buy life. Now again inside this book. I've got beginner routines as well on the beginner routines are actually I'll look at one right now. For instance, in for a pull-up workout. All you need to do is eight sets of Max pull up. So you might only be able to do three pull-ups. And guess what? You're going to do, three pull upset and then you'll rest for a few minutes, then you'll do
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Another three or maybe you're only doing two, and then you do that, eight times. And if you can't do any bulbs at all, there's an answer to that as well. You jump up on the bar and you hold yourself up there as long as you can, and you just do the negative work. So, and then you get done with that. You do some sit-ups as many as you can in two minutes and then run 400 meters to times. That's that's a beginner workout out inside this book. So I start off pretty easy and then it escalates, as you get in better shape. And by the way, you can do that workout right there. It's a beginner workout, but you
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Do it. If you do it, if you're Advanced and you do it, you'll still cross yourself because instead of doing three pull-ups your first set, you'll be doing 58 and then you'll get you'll be getting your workout on. So again, that's that's the way the, the workout book or the book is set up. As far as workouts goes. I also talked a little bit about training on the road because I spent a lot of time traveling with the echelon front or consulting company. So I'm in hotel rooms a lot and
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I got some stuff in there about the kind of workouts that I do in hotel. Jim's you know, sometimes I'll for instance throw a towel over a piece of gym equipment if they don't have a pull-up bar or I'll go into a parking garage because just about every parking garage has some kind of Plumbing or piping up in the ceiling and so you can find a place that you can jump up and you can do some pull-ups. Be careful. Don't don't break the plumbing and cause massive amounts of damage.
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But you find a good pipe or you find a an I-beam that you can get. You can get a hold of and you go there and you do some Pull-Ups. So, there's that, I've done, I've spent many times doing dips between treadmills. I don't really like treadmills if I'm Gonna Run them and go run. But the, the the treadmills have big handles on them. So I'll kind of move those around the floor a little bit and get some dips on those. And sometimes, in fact, oftentimes. It's just the hotel room floor with their nasty carpets and on those nasty carpets.
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I'll do burpees. I'll do push-ups. I'll do gut exercises, handstand push-ups squats pistols, which are one-legged squats. I'll do whatever and I'll just get crazy with the calisthenics and a lot of times also when I'm on the road as I don't have a lot of time because I'm meeting with a client and then I'm speaking and then I'm going to a meeting and so my my workout and I flew in and I got in late and so a lot of times I'll just be doing some kind of a quick workout to maintain the discipline the to maintain the
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On and to get some level of work out and to get the blood flowing. Because I think it's bad when you don't wake up and do something. I always feel groggy for the day. So one of my favorite quick workouts to do is, is a hundred burpees for Time 1 minute. Rest a hundred burpees for time, get some of that again. It should probably take you less than less than 20 minutes for sure. And once you get done with that, you'll have the blood flowing.
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And you'll feel better about yourself again. All those are in the book. And yeah, you can check them out. Now, another section of the book that Tim wanted me to talk about was I talk about martial arts in the book and I've been training martial arts for a long time, and there's various types of martial arts. There's striking there's grappling and there's weapons. These are the kind of the broad the broad martial arts categories, right? Striking, which is when your heart,
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Eating people grappling, which is when you're grabbing people and using weapons. Obviously, there's all kinds of different weapons from knives, two swords, two sticks to Firearms, guns and it. So I talked about those things, but I talk a lot about Jiu-Jitsu which, which I think is the best base to have for martial arts and
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Tim like this part where I talked about why to start with Brazilian jiu-jitsu and how it should be taught for self-defense. So here, we're going to the book where I talk about why to start with Brazilian jiu-jitsu start with Brazilian jiu-jitsu, it is a form of grappling that is highly Advanced because for the most part, the actual fighting takes place on the ground. This is a key point because our first form of
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Offense is to get away. Yes. To run if you are confronted by another person or a group of people. The best thing you can do is run away. Avoid the conflict. This is relatively easy. If someone is trying to strike you with punches or kicks. They do not have control over you so you can simply run away from them. You have one.
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The problem comes in a self-defense situation when someone is grabbing you now, they are preventing your first line of self-defense running away. As soon as someone grabs, you, you are in a grappling scenario. And one of the most critical parts of Brazilian jiu-jitsu is escaping from someone's grip. So you can run.
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Often times an attacker will take you to the ground in order to prevent you from escaping their grip. When this happens, the ability to ground fight is used, not to stay on the ground, but to get up and get away from the attacker. The first goal of a beginner in Jiu-Jitsu is not to get the fight to the ground, but to get up off the ground and get away. This is an important distinction.
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From people who believe, the goal of self-defense in Jiu-Jitsu is to get the attacker to the ground. This is not true. The goal is to get away.
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But as has been seen over and over again, fights often end up on the ground and therefore, a person must be prepared for it. Not training in Jiu-Jitsu because you don't want to go to the ground is like not learning how to swim because you don't want to go in the water. It doesn't make sense. The safest way to deal with the water is to be comfortable in it just as being comfortable on the ground as the best way to deal with that scenario. Should it unfold?
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Real life.
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So that's one of those things that people understandably. So if they learn that, if they think that Jiu-Jitsu if you get attacked, what you're going to do is grab someone and pull them to the ground. That's, that's not what the goal is. The goal is to get away from people. So unfortunately, in many fights they end up on the ground because if you start hitting someone, their defense might be to grab you. And when they grab you, now, you're in a grappling scenario, so, that is why it jiu-jitsu.
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Is very important. Now, there's other great martial arts and I talked about them in the book as well. One of the things that Tim asked me about is if I was teaching a Jiu-Jitsu to a sort of a semi athletic person, not not not an Olympic decathlete, but not a couch potato either. What would the first week look like? And the first, the first week would be pretty straightforward. The things I would want someone to understand our
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The fundamental positions of Jiu-Jitsu Jiu-Jitsu is a grappling art, you're wrestling with another human being and there's certain positions and they have certain advantages and disadvantages. And so I would want them to understand these fundamental positions, one's called the mount one's called the guard one's called, the back one's called side control, one is called half guard, and I would want people to understand what those positions were, and how they related.
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Jiu-Jitsu. And the next thing I would understand is this position. I want my student to understand this position called the mount. The position is a position of dominance in Jiu-Jitsu. The person that is mounted is on the top position and they have a lot of control over the person that's beneath them.
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And you if you are trapped, there you are in a lot of trouble. And so, one of the first things I would teach people is how to escape from that mounted position when you're on the bottom and how to get back up to their feet. That's the next thing is, how do you get back up to your feet effectively so that you can get away and then I would want them to learn if they are, if they are in the mounted position. How would they do some kind of a submission? Hold? That's one of the best things about Jiu Jitsu. Is there, something called submission holds?
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Where you can make the person tap out or you can break their arm or put them to sleep through a choke hold. So I'd want them to start to learn to understand what submissions they are threatened with. In the mountain. That means you need to know what the offense is.
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And then I would want them to understand how this other position, which is called the guard and the guard is where you're on the bottom position. So someone is taking you to the ground and you're on the bottom and they're on top of you with their weight. But you've managed to get your legs around their body. So you have some control over their body weight.
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And then once they understand how important that position is, then I would say, teach them, some submissions. And some sweeps, which is when you change position, you, you put the personal, you put your opponent on the bottom, you are on the bottom and then you you sweep them and you put them on the bottom and the whole time that I'm teaching these things, but I think it's very important Jiu-Jitsu that you actually spar with other people.
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Because people need to believe that Jiu-Jitsu works. And one of the best ways to convince people that judges to works is to actually have them participate in it and actually have them trained against another person. That's good because when you train with someone that's good. That's 40 pounds lighter than you and clearly weaker than you are and yet they can tap you out over and over and over again. It is a real eye-opener and it will make a Believer out of just about anyone.
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So it's good to roll. Now. You do have to be careful because when people first start they go crazy their ego gets out of control and everyone wants to just go a thousand percent against their opponent. So it's usually better to pair up someone against someone that's a little bit better than them or maybe even quite a bit better than them so they can understand how effective it is and they can understand that no matter how much they Panic, no much, no matter how much they thrash around, no matter how much they use, all their strength that doesn't work in comparison.
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Too good Jujitsu technique. So that's what it is for me. How I would kind of, and that's how I actually I do. Start people in Jiu-Jitsu. Now, there's something else to be said. When you go to a school, the school, whenever you go does not revolve around you and just showing up there. So you may not get this basic information. But what's cool about Jiu-Jitsu is I look at it sort of like learning a language and one of the best ways to learn a language is through immersion training and that's it.
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Going to happen, you show up at many Jiu-Jitsu schools. You are going to get immersed in something. You don't know what anything means. Just like, if you showed up in a foreign country with a foreign language. You wouldn't understand anything at first and then you start to recognize a word here and a word there. And then you recognize a little sentence fragment and then eventually you start putting the pieces together and then you can speak the language. The same thing happens in Jiu-Jitsu. So you start recognizing a move and you see where another move ties into it and eventually put together a fragment of a series of moves and then eventually
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You learn the language of Jiu-Jitsu. So it's good to get the basics of all the different positions in. There's a million places to see those online so that you kind of understand fundamentally what's happening in Jiu-Jitsu, but the immersion training is very important as well. And you get in there you get in them on the mat and you start training. Now, people also always ask, where should I train? What's a good school? And there's I talked about this in the book and I'll go over.
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Some of the highlights of where how to find a good Jiu-Jitsu school again, because I get asked this all the time and there's luckily in America. There's so many really good Jiu-Jitsu schools. Nowadays. Jujitsu is very popular in America. When I started, there was very few schools in all of America and I was lucky to have a good school in San Diego, California, but that has spread now, and there's really good schools all over the place. So, number one thing I look at is actually proximity from home or work.
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I think it's very important that wherever you're going to train is close enough to you that you can get there conveniently without an 87 minute transit to get their know if I've got a place that's I want my place to be as close as I can. I think that's one of the primary things, you look at how close is it? So it's easy to get to whether you go there after work and it's so it's close to work or whether you go there after when you get home because it's close to home either way, but having to drive 97 minutes to get
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A train somewhere is not going to be beneficial for your training. So look for someone somewhere close. The other thing is now you need to find out qualified instructor. There's a lot of qualified instructors out there. There's any and you might have a black belt and there's a lot of outstanding black belts, but you might only have a brown belt or a purple belt, depending on where you are in the world. And how much did you Jutsu is where you are? And so, you might only have a purple or brown belt and that's actually fine and back in the back in the 90s.
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Are many schools in America that were run by purple belts and they were very successful and taught a lot of great guys and now there's more black belts. So that's more common. As far as the legitimacy of the instructor. You can really there's a lot of really good internet. Police out there that keep the the fakers in check. So a quick Google, maybe ask some people check some forums and find out if the person is legit or not, and that's, that's very beneficial because you definitely want a good quality.
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Defied instructor. Now. The other thing is with schools is there's two different extremes on the school's. There's very traditional schools and there's very non-traditional schools. The traditional schools are everyone's wearing the same uniform. Everything is done the same structured way each class. The instructors are called Sensei or master or professor and and that's one type of school, and they're great. Some schools that are set up like that are great schools. There's also very,
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National schools that are very loose and everyone's wearing a different kind of uniform, and people are kind of coming on and off the mat. And instead of calling the instructor Professor or master or Sensei. They'll just call them Jocko or Dean or Jeff, you know, just, it's all good. We're all friends and we're good. We're training hard and there's no formalities. There's no bowing. There's all kinds of different schools. And and again both those types of schools are good and they both those types of schools have
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Italy, produced world champions, but it kind of depends what you like, what type of personality you have and where you think you'll fit in. And by the way, there's their schools everywhere in between as well. There's schools that are kind of in the gray area between the, the very loose school to the very Traditional School. There's some schools that are in the middle and then you want to check that atmosphere out. You know, what does that atmosphere like in does the atmosphere match the goals that you have as a person, you know, if you just want to learn some Jujitsu and start to
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Rain, and you don't want to compete, but you want to know some good self defense. That's a one type of school and you can find school with that attitude. You can also find schools that are crazy competitive and that's all they're focused on is Sport Jiu-Jitsu. And how can I win the next tournament and they'll have very intense training so and and again everything in between so you want to find a place that goes and match your goals and and I would recommend you when you go into a gym, you try some classes. You see what they're like, you meet the other students, you ask
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Other students what their goals are in Jiu-Jitsu. And I think you would you you can make a good decision. And another thing is I always say this Jiu-Jitsu is Jiu-Jitsu is not a religion. It's and your instructors are not Gods. There are people that are good at Jujitsu. So if you start feeling, there's a cult scenario happening just be careful that you shouldn't feel like that. Jiu-Jitsu is fun.
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And it's a great sport. So you shouldn't be feeling that cult scenario happening and you shouldn't be looking at your jiu-jitsu instructor as a religious deity.
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So that's how you pick a school and the book. Also discusses other martial arts, boxing wrestling, Muay Thai. And, like I said, firearms training and, and what's interesting about all these different types of training, and you might be thinking that I don't, I'm not interested in martial arts, which is fine. But I will tell you that first of all, martial arts are great to train. Not only are they great for self defense and you learn how to handle yourself. They actually also make you a better person.
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In a lot of different ways, you're able to handle yourself in any tough situation. You get confident because you know, you can take care of yourself and just the physical training. They make you sharper both.
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Mentally and physically sharper and and tougher. And so that's, that's why I think, training, martial, arts and Jiu-Jitsu, and boxing, and Muay Thai and wrestling, and and firearms training in all these different martial, arts type training. They will help you not just in those specific Arenas. But in everything that you're doing in your life, and I think that's I think that's really why a lot of people listen to Tim, you know myself included. He's we all want to hear ways to get better in every
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Aspect of life. And
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The one thing that I know will make you better is discipline the discipline to get up the discipline to work out every day the discipline to eat, right? And the discipline to make good financial decisions and did make discipline choices about how you spend your time doing productive things.
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I think that discipline is the true path way.
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To Improvement and like the book says discipline is ultimately the pathway to Freedom.
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So bunch of stuff in the book. I appreciate everyone, listening. I supremely appreciate Tim for inviting me on to do this show. While he's not allowed to talk. I still, am I appreciate that and appreciate everything that Tim does and has done to support me in what I'm doing and for continuing to put out all the great content that he puts out to the world to help everyone out there learning.
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Implement and improve.
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That's all. I got. Appreciate everyone, listening.
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Have a good one y'all.
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Out.
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